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Re: Does The Quran say God told Abraham to sacrifice his son? - Eid Al Adha
« Reply #180 on: December 12, 2019, 01:34:04 AM »
Salaam,


peace,

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I think that when his son said: ... you will find me, if God willed, of the patient ones. / ... satajiduni, in sha'a Allahu, mina alssabireena,
refers to the MOMENT ( if3al ma tu amru i.e  when Abraham would do what he saw in his dream),
and NOT AFTER:  if3al ma tu amru.

if3al ma tu amru : do what you order in the present,
Abraham's vision :  He did not say I was ordered to do.

Peace Houriya,

When his son said "if3al ma tu amru", what was he referring to?



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Re: Does The Quran say God told Abraham to sacrifice his son? - Eid Al Adha
« Reply #181 on: July 30, 2020, 11:56:44 PM »
It's that time of the year again (according to Traditional Islam):

Does The Quran say God told Abraham to sacrifice his son?
http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran-Abraham-sacrifice-son.html

Associated article: Questions to ask yourself about the traditional story
http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/Abraham-Sacrifice-Questions.html
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Re: Does The Quran say God told Abraham to sacrifice his son? - Eid Al Adha
« Reply #182 on: July 31, 2020, 06:21:41 AM »
Peace Wakas,

Excellent article and beautiful photos.

Abraham's vision is similar to the vision of the king, which was interpreted by Joseph : 7 lean cows that eat 7 fat cows ...

Happy Eid Elkebir Day, just kidding, without offense to the people who celebrate it.

Peace

It's that time of the year again (according to Traditional Islam):

Does The Quran say God told Abraham to sacrifice his son?
http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran-Abraham-sacrifice-son.html

Associated article: Questions to ask yourself about the traditional story
http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/Abraham-Sacrifice-Questions.html

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Re: Does The Quran say God told Abraham to sacrifice his son? - Eid Al Adha
« Reply #183 on: October 17, 2020, 10:12:04 AM »
Mufti Abu Layth attempts to reconcile the verses:
https://youtu.be/Lt3IxKtL_54?t=2811

Reasonable effort but you will note in terms of Quranic analysis it falls short. I find it interesting how many will claim Quran is so eloquent, such sublime style etc but when it comes to interpreting difficult passages they will interpolate frequently, and claim God really meant this God really meant that etc. That doesn't sound eloquent to me.
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Re: Does The Quran say God told Abraham to sacrifice his son? - Eid Al Adha
« Reply #184 on: October 17, 2020, 11:15:43 AM »

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Abraham will experience / observe his son's patience? ( i.e. no separation?)

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That's a decent point and yes it could imply that. We'd have to research all similar occurrences to be sure.

It could be argued when Abraham said goodbye and left he found his son to be patient AND he was later given news of his son as a prophet implying he was of the righteous and thus of the patient ones.

In addition to what I said above. It could also be argued it could refer to Abraham living the rest of his life not hearing about his son searching for him or trying to meet him etc.
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