How explain the prophecies of the Hadiths if there are made-up?

[reel]

If we follow your reasoning it will remain a prophecy that need to be fulfilled

Wars are random. There is one group always attacking the other. Humans will probably continue to wage war. So you can say x will attack y and at some point it will come true.

[Man of Faith]

Prophet Yesaya prophesied the current unrest in the world with Islam to be a major problem but not the only problem.

[lostINtheWORLD]

Prophet Yesaya prophesied the current unrest in the world with Islam to be a major problem but not the only problem.

I don't understand you.

About what concrete prophecy are you referring to?

[Man of Faith]

Lostintheworld,

The prophecy written in the book of Yesaya.

[Zulf]

This thread seems to assume a very black-white point of view.

It talks about hadith as made up. What does that mean? That every thing in hadith is wrong/false? Ususally the question is whether or not the events portrayed are true, and whether or not the stuff was actually said by the people as claimed.

If some material in hadith is alright (like the stuff we can find in fables, proverbs, sayings etc) and some is BS, then what does that mean for the existence of prophesies?

Can prophesies only appear in a divinely inspired text? Assumption.
Can prophesies only come from prophets of Religion? Assupmtion.

I say, hadith may contain loads of crap, and it may at the same time contain wisdom, as well as prophesies. This does not mean hadith is a holy collection of sayings, like Traditional Islam maintains.

I say, hadith may contain true prophesies, why not. It doesn't mean hadith must be followed.

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Peace