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Why can't we see God?

Started by AbdulAziz Mohammed, December 02, 2014, 12:48:01 PM

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Fusion

I just wanna know that if we can not use the information given to us to try and attempt knowing the nature of God, and we cant put him physically. Then why God himself explained about his nature with giving examples of physical objects/references? Face is one example, yes he may not have a face like us but still does he have what is characterized as face in terms of what is face meant for?
Then there are references to the word throne in many many verses and yet again God gives examples to us using the physical objects we see.

11:7 He is the One who has created the heavens and the earth in six days, and His Throne was upon the water; so as to test who from among you works the best. And when you say: ?You will be resurrected after the death,? those who have rejected say: ?This is but clear magic!?

10:3 Your Lord is God who has created the heavens and the earth in six days, then He settled upon the Throne; He manages all affairs. There is no intercessor except after His permission. Such is God your Lord, so serve Him. Would you not remember?

2:255 ? 2:261
the heavens and the earth. Who will intercede with Him except with His permission? He knows their present and their future, and they do not have any of His knowledge except for what He wishes. His Throne encompasses all of the heavens and the earth and it is easy for Him to preserve them. He is the Most High, the Great."

7:54 Your Lord is God who has created the heavens and the earth in six days, then He settled upon the Throne.

I would like to know the meaning of throne with respect to water, encompasses all heavens and earth, settling upon throne.

All of above is PHYSICAL to me unless He just uses these terms to explain us, yet God can not be contained within his own creation.

Cheers
Best Regards,

FindingRightPath

Salaam,

I am not sure, but may be because Allah is energy or a type of energy, so that's why we can't see Allah.

Man of Faith

If you can see your hand when you raise your it then you have seen God.

That does not mean God is physical, but the visual illusion that you see is formed from the "force field" that is God. God sustains it like a kind of platform.

Salaam
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FindingRightPath

Quote from: Man of Faith on January 30, 2015, 12:01:39 AM
If you can see your hand when you raise your it then you have seen God.

That does not mean God is physical, but the visual illusion that you see is formed from the "force field" that is God. God sustains it like a kind of platform.

Salaam

I just raised my hand and started imagining myself to see God. I don't know why that made me laugh though. Lol. But I agree with the believe that God is everywhere. I also believe the same, and Quran implies this in many verses.

Man of Faith

The raise your hand statement is meant as a little humorous.

Indeed God has no form nor is restricted to time or space, so God is ultimately omnipresent and part of every location at the same time, and God's "force field" is what forms the material illusion that you see and which your raised hand is part of. It is not wrong to have a pantheistic perception of God although I prefer to erase the traditional theism as inaccurate.

Salaam
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JavaLatte

Quote from: Man of Faith on January 30, 2015, 12:01:39 AM
If you can see your hand when you raise your it then you have seen God.

I hope you could stop from telling such thing. Why you don't seem to have fear of Allah?


Remember this verse.

(27:65) Say: "None in the heavens and the earth knows the unseen except Allah.
And they do not perceive when they will be resurrected."


And these verses.

(69:44) Now if he had dared to attribute some [of his own] sayings unto Us,

(69:45) We would indeed have seized him by his right hand,

(69:46) and would indeed have cut his life-vein

(69:47) and none of you could have saved him.

(69:48) And, verily, this is a reminder to all the God-conscious.

So be careful.
[33:72] Verily, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they refused to bear it and they were afraid of it; but man bear it - verily, he was transgressing, ignorant.

FindingRightPath

Quote from: Man of Faith on January 30, 2015, 12:36:33 AM
The raise your hand statement is meant as a little humorous.

Indeed God has no form nor is restricted to time or space, so God is ultimately omnipresent and part of every location at the same time, and God's "force field" is what forms the material illusion that you see and which your raised hand is part of. It is not wrong to have a pantheistic perception of God although I prefer to erase the traditional theism as inaccurate.

Salaam

That's how I feel too, but I am never sure. So, I just pray to God to guide me always if I am ever wrong as God knows the best. I am not sure about pantheistic though. Yes, God is part of universe, but God is beyond that, imo.

hawk99

Peace

C'mon folks you can't see Allah, and if you have or can, you either suffer from
misinformation or a mental condition.

7/143  And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said,
"My Lord, show me [Yourself] that I may look at You." [Allah] said, "You will not see Me,
but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me." But when
his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious.
And when he awoke, he said, "Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and
I am the first of the believers."

God bless

      :peace:
The secret to monotheism can be found in the garden

Man of Faith

Finding,

God is the existence and the only permanently and indefinitely existing and only those who merge with the same consciousness will continue to exist in God. What you see is a mere illusion which does not really exist but is projected by the "force" of God.

The error people make is that they force God to be a separate image due to some Pagan ideology about gods while we actually are supposed to be merged in that consciousness and so to say co-exist in it. It is not idolatry because you acknowledge that it is ultimately the only real existence and you yourself only alone exist in the flesh/illusion. You are basically nothing alone. You seek to exist in God directly by sharing affinity and thus merging.

Salaam
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Man of Faith

Hawk99,

Exactly, Moses saw Allah through the flesh/illusion and just like the parable of raising the hand like I wrote to 'Finding'. A person with realization does not need more than the raised hand. And Moses apologize quickly afterwards.

Salaam
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