However that cannot be what it means due to how God has stated in that very verse that we may return once they change topics. So it has nothing to do with the company we hang out with otherwise we be told not to be with them whatsoever. But honestly being in the west, I hear sometimes ny friends casuallly saying Christian mockery or God which while this verse isn't talking about those and only the verses of the Quran as I believed, they just briefly make a a mockery and move on. I don't participate on it nor respond, just wait till its over before continuing.
Thus say if it were to make a mockery of the Quran and I avoided by not talking or paying attention till done, I would indeed be damned as a Kaffir!? Even though I believe and don't cover the truth nor say or join the conversing?
That last part seems problemsome. I would understand it simply being a sin but being Kufr seems a bit much and doesn't make much sense either :/
No, it can mean company if it doesn't let up. That was the point if one doesn't take it literally (what was said in brackets). It can go deeper than "I mock your god nyah nyah" *I'm not listening lalala* "Ooh did you hear about Clarice? She's got something going on with Hannibal!" *Really? Tell me more! all ears*
Personally, I eschew casual 'friendships' and am very selective in my company. If I can't learn/share on equal grounds of respect, logic and understanding...they aren't worth my time. I wouldn't try to cultivate a deeper bond or even continuing a casual one with someone who isn't on the same wavelength; which is not to say that I can't be polite to them and/or take a stand for my beliefs. I wouldn't seek them out or bask in their company.
The verses to me incorporate both facets of such communication, casual and deeper. Being branded a 'kaffir' on the grounds you put forth is doing an injustice to all the other verses of the quran which clearly put forth the requirements of such. Always take the whole picture into account. Like has been mentioned before on the forum, it's not black and white...it's a gradual slip and slide towards the dark side. That is what you need to be aware of and to avoid the many things that will take you there. It is a fact that many people do not cut destructiveness out of their lives or even realise the negative impact of a great many things and they all add up eventually... by which time it's too late and neither do they care much.
It's only difficult because you are seeing it as very staccato like. When you put it all together and realise that being a 'kaffir' is more than just ignoring crap people say around you...and that the verses are dealing with the attitude and mindset we should have...it makes way more sense.
This is great advice. I am in a boat like Lena's. I work with ppl who are so used to joking about their own faith, that they just find it normal to joke with any faith. Example. My mother sends me jokes about God or Jesus, that get sent to her from friends. My family is Catholic and I was raised in a moderately strict christian home. But she does not see these jokes as harmful. Sometimes I don't even think they are aware. This is what happens when you make God.. MAN. Anyway. I can understand how you feel.
I'm not sure if I mentioned feeling a certain way but I usually never click on joke emails...they're almost always lame and I feel guilty for not lmao'ing with wild abandon
I agree with you though, we are just blind to certain harmful behaviour that we take as nothing untoward. Takes a lot of re-wiring, strength and openness to change...to actually see and do the needful.