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An Oath, Vow, and Covenant/Pledge? How do these work?

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Aryan Warrior:
So i've been really confused about these three things:

Here is a verse about oaths:

"And fulfill your pledge to God when you pledge so, and do not break your oath after making it, for you have made God a sponsor over you. God is aware of what you do." (16:91)

Here is a verse about Pledge/Covenant: (note i've seen pledge here translated as covenant many times)
"The ones whom you made a pledge with them, then they break their pledge every time, and they do not care." (8:56)

And here is a verse about Vows:
"Then let them complete their duties and fulfill their vows, and let them traverse at the ancient Dwelling." (22:29)

An Oath as defined is a promise you make using one the name of God so seal it. That one I understand.

Pledge and Covenant are what really confuse me. First off the original arabic word āhada is translated mostly translated either Pledge or Covenant, which causes confusion right there. A Pledge is a really strong promise meaning only you have to engage in whatever you agree while a Covenant is a contract meaning both sides have to engage in what you agree. So some help there would be nice. But the main question is how do we make these withholding? Do we say "I make a pledge" or "I make a covenant/contract" or as we to still say the name of God?

Then we have vow which again is another type of promise and again unsure of how to make this one withholding?

Like at times I say to people I will ask someone something for them but end up forgetting but I never told them its a promise, a covenant or vow or made it an oath, so how would this respond?

Please help.

Thanks :)



youssef4342:
Covenants/pledges/vows would all be similar.
I would think that there is a difference between you making a statement of doing something, and pledging to do something.
However, we should fulfill what we say....

[61:2] O you who believe, why do you say what you do not do?
[61:3] Most abominable in the sight of GOD is that you say what you do not do.

Well brother, you should use the Conditional tense/phrases , would, could, should, maybe, we will see, i understand, i'll try, God willing etc....
Instead of tying yourself down with a pledge, make an exit for yourself and be conditional

Aryan Warrior:

--- Quote from: youssef4342 on June 17, 2012, 02:31:16 PM ---Covenants/pledges/vows would all be similar.
I would think that there is a difference between you making a statement of doing something, and pledging to do something.
However, we should fulfill what we say....

[61:2] O you who believe, why do you say what you do not do?
[61:3] Most abominable in the sight of GOD is that you say what you do not do.

Well brother, you should use the Conditional tense/phrases , would, could, should, maybe, we will see, i understand, i'll try, God willing etc....
Instead of tying yourself down with a pledge, make an exit for yourself and be conditional

--- End quote ---

Well as I stating Covenant and pledges are quite different cause covenant is an engagement between two people while pledges are just the one person engaging.

Well as for those verses, that would create a problem if the verses mean any ol casual talk where you say "sure i'll ask him" but eventually forget and such or simply don't take as much. Or how about Terms of Service agreements where you gotta agree to for example not upload some copyrighted picture on Facebook and such even though everyone already does it?

Otherwise these verse seem like quite the burden especially since elsewhere it is always referring to not breaking covenants and oaths and such. Oaths as I said I know involving saying you will do something in the name of God while covenants you don't but I assume it requires something to confirm its imporance like a handshake, saying the word "I promise" as people regularly do here and such.

But simply any saying seems a bit out there and quite impossible to go by in a religion that isn't suppose to be a burden O_O I would think more figure this refers to the covenants, oaths and contracts.

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