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Quranists and testing for clandestine agendas?

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Wakas:
I have often wondered if some amongst the "Quranist" community have clandestine/hidden agendas. This could also include authors of works from any sect.

So, I was wondering, is there a way to test this? A way to ensure others or one does not have a hidden agenda, even hidden to oneself?

Are there signs that suggest no agenda / agenda etc? If so, what would they be?

There may even be articles on this online, I haven't checked. I primarily ask, because Quran says there are those who think they believe, or think they are doing good etc when they are not. So, it would be prudent to avoid such a pitfall.

savage_carrot:
One way is to put it out there in the public sphere and examine the comments from different sides seriously; to re-evaluate/re-examine oneself during as well. It's a process of routine checks I would think. As for others, guess it would be to see how they explain and/or take criticism and whether those are logical enough to exclude enough bias to be mostly agenda free. Usually agendas comprise of a very rigid pov etc that doesn't change even if there are glaring contradictions. All I can think of right now.

peace

Bigmo:

--- Quote from: Wakas on June 13, 2012, 02:59:08 PM ---I have often wondered if some amongst the "Quranist" community have clandestine/hidden agendas. This could also include authors of works from any sect.

So, I was wondering, is there a way to test this? A way to ensure others or one does not have a hidden agenda, even hidden to oneself?

Are there signs that suggest no agenda / agenda etc? If so, what would they be?

There may even be articles on this online, I haven't checked. I primarily ask, because Quran says there are those who think they believe, or think they are doing good etc when they are not. So, it would be prudent to avoid such a pitfall.

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Because the Quranist persuasion is still relatively knew and unknown, its easy for someone to claim he is the leader of this new movement. The internet has made this now very difficult as more and more people begin to join the persuasion. Often these individuals will author books and rarely mention other Quranist opinions. This usually happens in the begining when people are not aware of the movement and its views.

Quranist are still fragmented and work as individuals rather than as a group. This will not last long however. The problem this causes is that other people might hear this person's views and think all Quranist share that opinion. They may not be aware the diversity that exists. I have seen this with Rashad Khalifa and also Ahmed Subhi Mansour and to a lesser degree Ahmed Rifai'. They never show the diversity of opinions and only promote their own. But this is only in the short term. We have no literature as yet that outlines the various Quranist views on a range of topics.

Jafar:

--- Quote from: Wakas on June 13, 2012, 02:59:08 PM ---I have often wondered if some amongst the "Quranist" community have clandestine/hidden agendas. This could also include authors of works from any sect.

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Based on my experiences with Homo Sapiens.. I'm certain of it...
Everyone has their own (hidden or shown) agendas.. it's unavoidable...


--- Quote ---So, I was wondering, is there a way to test this? A way to ensure others or one does not have a hidden agenda, even hidden to oneself?
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"if you want to test a man's true character, give him power."
-- Abe Lincoln


--- Quote ---Are there signs that suggest no agenda / agenda etc? If so, what would they be?
There may even be articles on this online, I haven't checked. I primarily ask, because Quran says there are those who think they believe, or think they are doing good etc when they are not. So, it would be prudent to avoid such a pitfall.

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Spending effort to understand one's 'hidden agenda' is a waste of effort and creates distrust and suspicion...
On the back of my head I think there's something similar to:
"Heed the advise from those who doesn't have any vested interest "
In the Quran, I forgot the verse..

Salam / Peace

Jafar:

--- Quote from: savage_carrot on June 13, 2012, 03:34:28 PM ---Usually agendas comprise of a very rigid pov etc that doesn't change even if there are glaring contradictions.
All I can think of right now.

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True.. One of the indicator.. the POV is being proposed not to be 'tested' and the intention is not to 'seek truth'..
The author of the POV shall be easily angered when there's one who doesn't accept his/her POV and started 'name calling'..

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