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wazir1961

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Shouldn’t we be mindful of language in Namaz / Dua ?
« on: June 07, 2012, 06:07:55 PM »
Shouldn’t we be mindful of language in front Allah SWT?

Muslims  widely recite Sura – Ikhlas in prayer, dua or at many other occasions. This and many other sura starts with word “Qul” translated as “Say”.

While reading grammar book “The Essential Arabic: A learner’s Practical Guide” by Rafi’el – Imad Faynan (Professor of Arabic at Jamia Millia Islamia, New Delhi), I came across conjugation of word “Qala” and grammar rules of imperative verb. 

According to  conjugation of word “Qala”, word  ‘Qul’ (Say) is a 2nd person masculine singular imperative verb (fi’lul-amri).

On page 53 of book, author writes:

‘Imperative verb’ is called “ fi’lul-amri ”.

It is a verb through which we order or request someone to do something.

For example:  Go (Order) or  Please go (Request).
In other words: One (Speaker) orders / requests someone (listener) to do something(to go).

Now, let me apply this rule to Sura – Ikhkas to demonstrate the problem, if we recite it “as it is”.

One (Allah SWT) orders someone (Prophet SAW) to do something (to say - i.e. recite or convey to his followers - :  “He is Allah, the One. Allah is Absolutely Independent. He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is absolutely none like Him.”)

This is perfect construction with reference to Quran. But problem arises when we recite ‘AS IT IS’  in prayer, dua or at any other occasions.

Now, imagine when we recite Sura- Ikhlas ‘as it is’ what will be scenario considering the listener in this case is Allah SWT.

One (who recites the Sura Ikhlas) requests someone (who listens - Allah SWT) to do something (to say: “He is Allah, the One. Allah is Absolutely Independent. He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is absolutely none like Him.”)

In other words, we order / request Allah SWT to SAY that “Allah SWT (another one?)”  is He who is One   and so on.

Isn’t this scenario problematic?

Will someone, expert in Arabic, throw some light here?

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I emailed this question to few scholars. The relevant part of only one response email, I received , is as under:

“You are absolutely correct, that the current utterance of the 2nd person masculine singular imp. verb (fi-lul'amri) ‘Qul’ (Say) is possibly inappropriate in the context of a personal prayer. However, please note that it can be argued that an 'imam' in a congregational prayer is reciting not only a personal prayer, but also in the capacity as a leader (to the congregation). In the latter case, it may be considered appropriate to recite the ‘Qul’ in such a way to the congregation”.
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The argument that Imam is addressing congregation is untenable because of following reasons:

1) Generally, Imam is acting on behalf of congregation in the capacity of leader. So it may be inappropriate not only for his personal prayer, but for the congregation too.

2)  Sura Fateha recitation before recitation of Sura Ikhlas:

When we recite sura fateha, in verse 1:5, we are specifically addressing Allah SWT in 2nd Person by saying word:  “Iyyaka”

1: 5  Iyyaka naAAbudu wa iyyaka nastaAAeenu   
 Yusuf Ali 5:  Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.   
Mohsin Khan: 5:  You (Alone) we worship, and You (Alone) we ask for help (for each and everything).

So, we cannot say that when we recite sura fateha 2nd person is Allah SWT and immediately after that when we recite sura Ikhlas suddenly 2nd person is congregation.

3)  When reciting Sura Kafiroona, who is 2nd person? Look at the wordings of sura Kafiroona.

Transliteration 1:  Qul ya ayyuha alkafiroona   
Yusuf Ali 1:  Say: O ye that reject Faith!   
Mohsin Khan: 1:  Say: (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم to these Mushrikun and Kafirun): "O Al-Kafirun (disbelievers in Allah, in His Oneness, in His Angels, in His Books, in His Messengers, in the Day of Resurrection, and in Al-Qadar)!     
       
Transliteration 2:  La aAAbudu ma taAAbudoona
Yusuf Ali 2: I worship not that which ye worship,
Mohsin Khan: 2:  "I worship not that which you worship,

Transliteration 3:  Wala antum AAabidoona ma aAAbudu   
Yusuf Ali 3:  Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Mohsin Khan: 3:  "Nor will you worship that which I worship.

Transliteration 4:  Wala ana AAabidun ma AAabadtum   
Yusuf Ali 4:  And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
Mohsin Khan: 4:  "And I shall not worship that which you are worshiping.

Transliteration 5:  Wala antum AAabidoona ma aAAbudu   
Yusuf Ali 5:  Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Mohsin Khan: 5:  "Nor will you worship that which I worship.

Transliteration 6:  Lakum deenukum waliya deeni   
Yusuf Ali 6:  To you be your Way, and to me mine.
Mohsin Khan: 6:  "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."

It is clear that Allah SWT advising Prophet SAW to challenge non-believers’ by reciting this verse. Means, 2nd person in this sura are non believers. So, if we accept the argument that Imam (1st person) is addressing congregation (2nd person) by word “Qul”, then essentially Imam is challenging people standing behind him as a non-believers.

And if we take 2nd person Allah SWT, then is it not a grave mistake on our part to recite these words?

4)  Take another sura Al Kauther and analyze it grammatically:

Transliteration 1:  Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara   
    Yusuf Ali 1:  To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).   
Mohsin Khan: 1:  Verily, We have granted you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) Al-Kauthar
      (a river in Paradise).
                   
Who is 1st person (Subject) and 2nd person (Object) when we recite this sura "AS IT IS" in prayer?

Obviously, when Imam recites it, he is 1st person and Allah SWT is 2nd person.

Look at grammatical analysis of word "aʿṭayka"
V – 1st person plural (form IV) perfect verb
PRON – subject pronoun
PRON – 2nd person masculine singular object pronoun
Source: http://corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(108:1:2)

Isn’t this scenario problematic?
   
I simply don’t understand why scholars are not paying attention?

Once I understood this, I am not only  afraid to recite these suras in namaz and dua, but afraid to join the congregation where Imam recites these verses without giving thought to what he is saying.

Will someone expert in Arabic shed some light here?





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Re: Shouldn’t we be mindful of language in Namaz / Dua ?
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 06:22:09 PM »
Shouldn’t we be mindful of language in front Allah SWT?

1. Simple Answer: No, language doesn't matter..
2. If you think that because your 'arabic grammar' (or any other language for that matter) is more correct than the others as thus Allah SWT shall put more priority to grant your wishes, thus giving you the advantage over others then you're totally mistaken. There's  no such thing as "Powerful Prayer" or "Powerful Mantra"..
3. Anywhere and anytime we always be "in front of Allah SWT"
4. A quote from Jewish sage who lived 2000 years ago really explains this quite well..
"But when you pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do. They think that they shall be heard for their long  speaking. Don't be like them! for your Father know about your needs, even before you ask Him"

Salam / Peace
The Arabs (al-arabu) are the worst in rejection and hypocrisy, and more likely not to know the limits of what God has sent upon His messenger
9:97

And yes it's written as Al-Arabu and not Al-Badawi or Badawiyun..
*For those who had a hard time accepting this fact..

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Re: Shouldn’t we be mindful of language in Namaz / Dua ?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 11:29:01 AM »
 Try using the following few “SAY” in your prayers

Say: "(Nay!) be ye stones or iron, (Al-Israa: 50)
 Say: "O men! I am (sent) to you only to give a Clear Warning: (Al-Hajj: 49)
Say: "Those who invent a lie against Allah will never prosper." (Yunus: 69)
Say: "Verily, I am commanded to serve Allah with sincere devotion; (Az-Zumar: 11)
Say: "If (Allah) Most Gracious had a son, I would be the first to worship." (Az-Zukhruf: 81)
Say: "It is not in my power to cause you harm, or to bring you to right conduct." (Al-Jinn: 21)
Say: "O my People! Do whatever ye can: I will do (my part): but soon will ye know- (Az-Zumar: 39)
Say: "Who gives you sustenance, from the heavens and the earth?" Say: "It is Allah; and certain it is that either we or ye are on right guidance or in manifest error!" (Saba: 24)
Say: "Travel through the earth and see what was the end of those who rejected Truth." (Al-An'aam: 11
Say: "Is it some one other than Allah that ye order me to worship, O ye ignorant ones?" (Az-Zumar: 64)
Say: "I would, if I disobeyed my Lord, indeed have fear of the penalty of a Mighty Day. (Al-An'aam: 15)
Say: "Truly am I a Warner: no god is there but the one Allah, Supreme and Irresistible,- (Saad: 65)
Say: "O my Lord! if Thou wilt show me (in my lifetime) that which they are warned against,- (Al-Muminoon: 93
Say: "Ye shall not be questioned as to our sins, nor shall we be questioned as to what ye do." (Saba: 25)
The present SALAT is nothing but a useless ritual, fabricated by the Muslims after the death of the prophet.



THE REAL SALAT IS

O ye who believe! seek help with patient perseverance and prayer; for Allah is with those who patiently persevere. (Al-Baqara: 153)
Nay, seek (Allah's) help with patient perseverance and prayer: It is indeed hard, except to those who bring a lowly spirit,- (Al-Baqara: 45)
SEEK HELP IN PRAYERS LIKE POROPHET ZACHARIAH

There did Zakariya pray to his Lord, saying: "O my Lord! Grant unto me from Thee a progeny that is pure: for Thou art He that heareth prayer! 3:38

While he was STANDING IN PARAYER in the chamber, the angels called unto him: "Allah doth give thee glad tidings of Yahya, witnessing the truth of a Word from Allah, and (be besides) noble, chaste, and a prophet,- of the (goodly) company of the righteous." 3:39

He said: "O my Lord! How shall I have son, seeing I am very old, and my wife is barren?" "Thus," was the answer, "Doth Allah accomplish what He willeth." 3:40

He said: "O my Lord! Give me a Sign!" "Thy Sign," was the answer, "Shall be that thou shalt speak to no man for three days but with signals. Then celebrate the praises of thy Lord again and again, and glorify Him in the evening and in the morning."  3:41



Prayer means glorification of God, DIRECTLY CONTACTING HIM through heart and mind with peace, seeking HELP and GUIDANCE from God, Repenting before HIM and asking for FORGIVENESS and thanking GOD FOR EVERYTHING HE HAS GIVEN US.


This will help us in building our character.


Recite what is sent of the Book by inspiration to thee, and establish regular Prayer: for PRAYER restrains from SHAMEFUL and UNJUST DEEDS; and remembrance of Allah is the greatest (thing in life) without doubt. And Allah knows the (deeds) that ye do. (Al-Ankaboot: 45)

Your prayer will prevent you from  deeds SHAMELESS and unacknowledged by God.

IF YOUR PRESENT PRAYER PREVENTS YOU FROM THE ABOVE DEEDS THEN THAT IS YOUR REAL PRAYER, AND IF IT FAILS THEN THINK THOUSAND TIMES ………

Thanks

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Re: Shouldn’t we be mindful of language in Namaz / Dua ?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2012, 08:50:37 PM »
3:29 Say, "Whether you hide what is in your chests or reveal it, God knows." He knows what is in the heavens and what is in the earth; and God is capable of all things.

Does it really matter? What really matters is the intention. There are so many sects because of trivial arguments over the details how to do certain things. Just follow your intuition and do something that makes sense.
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Re: Shouldn’t we be mindful of language in Namaz / Dua ?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2012, 09:22:46 AM »
3:29 Say, "Whether you hide what is in your chests or reveal it, God knows." He knows what is in the heavens and what is in the earth; and God is capable of all things.

Does it really matter? What really matters is the intention. There are so many sects because of trivial arguments over the details how to do certain things. Just follow your intuition and do something that makes sense.
jusb be honest man' :jedi: