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Bahman

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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2012, 09:31:45 PM »
and yet they lie but younger generation ( like Shaban Layth ) who do not follow their parents blindly, because they read Quran carefully and study claim with no prejudice.

Like Layth done, he has his own translation and understanding of Quran which is very close to Rashad's as far  few times compared. Then he has done his own examination of Miracle

But in same forum there many well educated and knowledgeable which are Arab or due to their parent belief  they have had to learn Arabic, either yet are not ready to leave behind their parents belief and witness the truth because needs lot of sacrifice from job to family relations.
Many of them are worried about such wide spread of monotheism which was initiated by a well educated and well Quran knowledgeable due the plan God designed.
They are worried when they wrote my Miracle promoting is misleading their children and is dangerous.
"Praise be to God Lord of universe for such technology or this way would be bloodshed."  as a Christain wrote 12 years ago in Yahoo Islam BB  when a Sunni scholar did not like my presence in that topic (Mecca or Becca) and wrote viliontly all kind of F words and bombard my email with porno. This a educated one SUnni or Shia that have deserted Quran and follow their Shaikh and Imams 9:31

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- Some believe in it, others do not believe, some ignore it, others keep checking to prove it/ or disprove it, some celebrate its successes, others want them to publish their failures....

The truth seekers have asked many times asked many times how about those before us  or people at present time which  do not know about Miracle of Quran
My response is that Quran's Miracle is just for proof for existence of superhuman and its divinity that is purified to the original which was burnt.
believing in God Alone do not need any scripture, but if you come to public and promote your belief then the people ask for proof of and divinity of the scripture, If pudding of meaning Rhymed Arabic excellency by Mohammed which knew only AJBAD was consedred Miracle but by human increase in knowledge such Miracle has no more power  and human has been able to imitate such Rhymed Arabic .

But these well educated anti Quran human are into false doing because :
- Only 200 millions are using Arabic plus those that have frown up in irreligious families and those that are interested . But how many of these people are well educated and are interested to study Quran and then compare it with what has been published for years now.
-Other mistake of these people is ignoring Miracle when they never can produce  small sura like it.
-No we have pure numerical miracle but you witness that poeple with all kind knowledge prefer to be blind to it and follow blindly  their parent belief. The use this granted knowledge having access to this screen by inducing wrong information like 19 cycle 1/19 or manipulating what exist
or use all tools available and design few words none sense and funny, then they claim their desins hence without any tools 1400 years such complicated and great interlocking syatem has been embedded into first chapter.


and then whole chapter.


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By adding number of letters whole chapter is multiple of 7 the code that Christian claming but none of those has any interlocking system 

But my final opinion is God has made easy for us any human to be saved 2:62, there is no other condition than 3 to be saved.
An atheist can have  One of 3  the first condition  "Righteous"   to be in straight path as older religion Zoroastrian belief :
Good Thought
Good Talk
Good Action
I have been Atheist up to 50 years old due LIES by Shia which is rooted in SUNNAH covering their corruptions under name of Quran and Islam.
An agonist can have  first and second condition but not believing in scripture and bearer.
An agonist could be researcher to find sign of Creation for this era human and that was the way
 I search for existence of God and concluded to Miracle in Sura One "Alfatatha "  " The KEY "
in Quran.
I consider Quran divine but messages are for past, present and future or time and location.
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2:62
Without Quran, Kenish, Church. Masque Shrine  and Miracle  can believe in God and day of judgement .
But as soon trying to promote your opinion then you are asked for proof for existence of Creator and then proof for your book .
Without proof you are like a fire fighter which know your job goo but no access to water.
I stop here as is not easy to think and write more after 8-10 hours hard jobs, Is summer and my day time as usual since i believed in Quran is developing my environment which GW i would make a audio video  of my attempts for last 14 years .
But lately i see that when i am working in mean time i think what i should response to different topics but when i start half of those responses gone into forgetting due to oldness.
GW soon i will do my audio . Here is my fist trail :)
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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2012, 09:46:57 AM »
Thank you Bahman.

I have no doubt that GOD chose the timing of HIS proofs/ Miracles for this Scientific generation. Those studying the last proven scripture will have a lot of thinking to do from:

30:58″ We have cited to the people in this (scripture) Koran all kind of examples. Yet no matter what kind of proof you present to the disbelievers, they will say you are falsifiers.”

27:82″ At the right time ( in the 20th Century, 1974!) the " Dabbatan" ( computer) made from ( GOD s) created earthly materials will declare for them that people are not certain about our revelations.” ( A mathematical proof that this scripture is from GOD?- 19 code?- Only possible by the help of a computer?)

27:93 “And say:” Praise be to GOD ; HE will show you HIS proofs until you recognise them”.Your Lord is never unaware of anything you do.”

 27:76 ” This Scripture ( Koran, the last testament) settles many issues for the children of Israel ( and all the other religions); Issues that they are still disputing.”

23:66 ”  My proofs ( that the Scripture is from GOD) have been presented to you, but you turned back on your heels

 

23:67 ” You were too arrogant to accept them, and you defiantly disregarded them.”

( What proof? Which Scripture? When?…)

 23:68 ” Why do they not reflect on this Scripture? Do they not realise that they ( this 21st   century generation)  have received something never attained by their parents?”

( Is there a Scientific/Mathematical proof ? How? )

 

23:69 ” Have they failed to recognise their messenger? ( The messenger of the Covenant -0f  Malachi  Chapter 3- And Of 3:81.) Is this why they are disregarding him.”
Can all these be mistranslations. Of course there are many more.

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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2012, 09:30:42 PM »
peace be with you guys as well...
I personally would see 19 as a sign/miracle
i have seen in in many places
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603419.0

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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2012, 03:33:31 AM »
Peace lordfox

Are we discussing Proofs/ Miracles or interpreting dreams?

Go and see " Joseph" who was the messenger of GOD and who some people said he was the" last messenger"

Wake up and explain.
Peace

Excellent answer @good logic!  :rotfl:
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