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Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« on: May 23, 2012, 11:17:51 AM »
You might have seen the proof connecting- The Golden Ratio-, - Fibonacci s Sequence- and- 19- ?

What do you think about the following:

30:27″ .. HE is the one who initiates the creation ( First creation before the heavenly feud?), then repeats it ( creation for the last chance- the test!-?); This is even easier for HIM ( to summon you on the day of judgement?). To him belongs the most similitude ( all the symmetry you see) in the heavens and the earth. HE is the ALMIGHTY, the Most WISE.”

( Look at the connection of the sequence and 19, especially 34-34 =0 -There is a symmetry from that initial point,up and down looking at the answers when we divided by 19! .Is GOD drawing the attention to it?  Note this verse: 30:27 :  30 + 27 = 57 ( 19 x 3 = 57 !) also more importantly this verse is the 3434 th verse from the beginning of this scripture. Let s add all the verses from chapter 1 up to chapter 30:27 (up to this verse): 7 + 286+ 200+176+120+165+206+75+127+109+123

+111+43+                                                             

    52+99

+128+111+110+98+135+112
+78+118+64+77+227+93+88+69+27 = 3434 !)  ( Yet another coincidence?)

If anyone would like to see the connection of the sequence with - 19- I will  post it at their request.
What are your views?
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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 05:33:54 PM »
The compass that I had paid for in good faith off slippery Sidney failed to take me home when I was returning from my trip to my Uncle Marmadukes' island; so when the fog finally cleared instead of me being home I was rowing my boat in deepest Russia and I know this to be true because I crashed into an iron curtain. I was then, prosecuted for kidnapping a polar bear from the local zoo due to the bear waking up when it was on the back seat of my car. He told me his name was Dave and he would be very lonely without his neighbours Roger and Rita Rhino. I returned to the zoo at night to take Dave back to his room and as he walked past me he ruffled my hair and called me a plonker, which was nice.
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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2012, 09:19:00 AM »
Peace lordfox

Are we discussing Proofs/ Miracles or interpreting dreams?

Go and see " Joseph" who was the messenger of GOD and who some people said he was the" last messenger"

Wake up and explain.
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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2012, 07:09:15 PM »
You might have seen the proof connecting- The Golden Ratio-, - Fibonacci s Sequence- and- 19- ?

What do you think about the following:

30:27″ .. HE is the one who initiates the creation ( First creation before the heavenly feud?), then repeats it ( creation for the last chance- the test!-?); This is even easier for HIM ( to summon you on the day of judgement?). To him belongs the most similitude ( all the symmetry you see) in the heavens and the earth. HE is the ALMIGHTY, the Most WISE.”

( Look at the connection of the sequence and 19, especially 34-34 =0 -There is a symmetry from that initial point,up and down looking at the answers when we divided by 19! .Is GOD drawing the attention to it?  Note this verse: 30:27 :  30 + 27 = 57 ( 19 x 3 = 57 !) also more importantly this verse is the 3434 th verse from the beginning of this scripture. Let s add all the verses from chapter 1 up to chapter 30:27 (up to this verse): 7 + 286+ 200+176+120+165+206+75+127+109+123

+111+43+                                                             

    52+99

+128+111+110+98+135+112
+78+118+64+77+227+93+88+69+27 = 3434 !)  ( Yet another coincidence?)

If anyone would like to see the connection of the sequence with - 19- I will  post it at their request.
What are your views?
Peace

Peace .
They would say another coincidence hence they believe in Quran and word Coincidence never has been authorized.
I consider  Quran's numerical textual security system  symmetrical which have  consistency by groups.
Like our finger print which are different but symbiotically in same direction, or snow flak which none of them are same but all form  sympathetically  a hexagon.

You may like to visit Amar's Quran data which is used to purify the scripture.


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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 10:11:25 AM »
Peace Bahman
Thank you for your reply.
I want to make the following points:(Since discussions about "code 19" have become saturated!)

- Some believe in it, others do not believe, some ignore it, others keep checking to prove it/ or disprove it, some celebrate its successes, others want them to publish their failures....

- There are those who have been" patient" they study and "wait"and...

I see this as "Evolution" of the process GOD initiated through " Rashad" at a time of HIS chosing, then HE guided ( still guiding) this process through the believers until HE wishes it to end?

GOD started a process with Mohammed, it took 23 years . What was it like after two years? did the believers accuse Mohammed of making mistakes? He was human, so was Rashad. They did not get everything right.

Above every knowledgeable human there is another one more knowledgeable and above them all is the Lord.

GOD tries the believers every time there is a new messenger?  " Learn from your past..."

What is very important is the truth!!!   Submission and total loyalty to the creator with complete sincerity!

All humans make mistakes!  Think where you started from?

When anyone Submits they go through the "trial"?

So what is the truth?  Is it " ONE GOD!  Total loyalty and submission to HIM ALONE?"

Everything else is " life" "individuality"...

If all unite in the truth, then the rest can follow with GOD s guidance?

By upholding GOD S proven word? How much proof does each one require to move towards certainty?

Who decides on what is proof? Do we all agree that there is proof?

GOD is in complete control!
Discuss?
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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2012, 01:52:50 PM »
Peace Bahman
Thank you for your reply.
I want to make the following points:(Since discussions about "code 19" have become saturated!)

- Some believe in it, others do not believe, some ignore it, others keep checking to prove it/ or disprove it, some celebrate its successes, others want them to publish their failures....
Welcome
God in all scriptures has warned us is to be in straight path, since time understood what is good and what is bad i have tried to be in good side as much  i have had in my capacity without
study any scripture and since in school I learned that our ancestor before Arabs used Quran to genocide our nation which  yet their decedent are in power and using same tyrannous forces and rules which can not be found in Quran.
I was obeying 3 rules by  Zoroastrianism:
Good thought
Good act
Good talk 
In Zoroastrianism, the Creator Ahura Mazda is all good, and no evil originates from him.
I was not studying Quran in my life unless small portion in Arabic for passing the grade, because not only me but many Iranian think same that all these tyrannous action against our nation which is going on are authored in Quran.
Older Arabs did not understood messages and lied to the world and yet they lie but younger generation ( like Shaban Layth ) who do not follow their parents blindly, because they read Quran carefully and study claim with no prejudice.

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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2012, 02:35:20 PM »
Shalom Aleikhem,

Sorry to both goodlogic and Lordfox..... none of you made any sense what so ever. I missed the point.


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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 02:43:51 PM »
Peace student of Allah.

I was trying to discuss the connection of the Golden ratio, Fibonacci s Sequence and number  19. GOD s stamp/code of this universe.

Also I wanted to move on and discuss what is evolving now, after " Rashad"and code 19 ...

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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 03:01:19 PM »
Also I wanted to move on and discuss what is evolving now, after " Rashad"and code 19 ...

What is evolving now is next to nothing, regarding "code 19", and more of learning, studying, following and applying the teachings of the Quran in daily life.   :sun:

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Re: Proofs/ Miracles of the last scripture?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2012, 09:34:51 PM »
Peace Mr. Q.

That has always been going on with some people.

I am talking about this 21st generation ( Science and Technology generation! )

God has a message for us with proofs?:

40:5″ Disbelieving before them ( this generation!) were the ( past generations) people of Noah and many other opponents after them. Every community persecuted their ( prophet or) messenger to neutralise him, and they argued with falsehood to defeat the truth. Consequently, I punished them; How terrible was my retribution.”

38:8″ Why did the proof come down to him ,( That this message is from GOD?) instead of us?” Indeed they are doubtful of my proof. Indeed, they have not yet tasted My retribution.”

51:17″ The earth is full of signs ( about your Creator) for those who are certain, and within yourselves. ( your own body and organs) Can you see?.”

 36:46″ No matter what kind of proof is given to them from their Lord, they consistently disregard it.”

12:105″ So many proofs in the heavens and the earth are given to them, but they pass them by ,heedlessly.”

15:16″ We placed Galaxies ( billions of them!) in the sky and adorned it for the beholder.” ( With or without telescope!)

73:52″ Does each one of them want to receive the scripture personally?”

5:19″ O people of the scripture ( and all the world!), our messenger ( the messenger of the covenant- Malachi, chapter3 and 3;81) has come to you, after a period of time without messengers ( 1400 years); To explain to you, lest you say:” We did not receive any preacher or warner.” GOD is omnipotent.”

10:59″ O people, ( All the world out there!) enlightenment has come to you from your Lord ( GOD s message) and healing for anything that troubles your hearts ( And answers to all your questions!) and guidance and mercy for all believers.”

( Here is a message from your creator, Yes you this computer/technology Generation!)

 

54:1″ The hour (Resurrection and judgement!) has come close, and the Moon has split.”( 1969, Man landed on the Moon and brought Moon rocks to be analysed!)

 

54:2″ Then they saw a miracle, but they turned away and said:” Old magic.” ” ( 1974, The discovery of- Code 19- with the aid of computers, proof that the last message from GOD “ Koran” could not have been authored by Man!)

 I was talking about this part.
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