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"God" vs Allah
Ruuube:
--- Quote from: IAMOP on May 18, 2012, 06:37:28 PM ---It has been done.
Anthropic principle ;)
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Which was formed from scientific principles. ;)
Mr.Q:
--- Quote from: MaverickMonotheist on May 18, 2012, 12:47:29 PM ---If we are emanations, then we can expect us to have the same characteristics of that which we are emanated from.
If we are creations, then we can expect to NOT have those characteristics of the Creator.
The idea of an emanated existence is gnostic sophistry that has no real moral or ethical implications that are in any way superior to those implied by a created universe, and does not explain the existential questions of reality any better.
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:bravo:
shaban:
--- Quote from: lordfox on May 18, 2012, 04:48:12 AM ---Read this, we will see if you will still use the old fine tuned universe argument.
http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vstenger/Fallacy/FTTech.pdf
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to fully understand presented material I need to review and remember some old stuff, but I dont have so much time. Anyway, whether fine-tuning is truth or not doesnt make difference.. I know that findings of Physics so far interestingly support the arguments of theology. This is what matters.
As for your "irrefutable philosophical idea", it is perhaps due to my limited knowledge of philosophy but I dont find any meaning in saying baseless words in a showy way and then calling them irrefutable or so. You cant say things like if Allah is so then it is plausible to say something can be so. Allah is not something. He has no eqivalent and is indefinable. You cant compare undefined entity with anything.
You'd better frankly say your personal materialistic beliefs that unseen doesnt exist but matter(energy) etc etc,and science will somehow recognize this "fact" one day.
peace
lordfox:
--- Quote from: shaban on May 20, 2012, 04:47:29 PM ---As for your "irrefutable philosophical idea", it is perhaps due to my limited knowledge of philosophy but I dont find any meaning in saying baseless words in a showy way and then calling them irrefutable or so. You cant say things like if Allah is so then it is plausible to say something can be so. Allah is not something. He has no eqivalent and is indefinable. You cant compare undefined entity with anything.
You'd better frankly say your personal materialistic beliefs that unseen doesnt exist but matter(energy) etc etc,and science will somehow recognize this "fact" one day.
peace
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Gee, this was an embarrassing, as you clearly did not understand anything I said. :rotfl:
Kaiokenred:
--- Quote from: MaverickMonotheist on May 18, 2012, 12:47:29 PM ---If we are emanations, then we can expect us to have the same characteristics of that which we are emanated from.
If we are creations, then we can expect to NOT have those characteristics of the Creator.
The idea of an emanated existence is gnostic sophistry that has no real moral or ethical implications that are in any way superior to those implied by a created universe, and does not explain the existential questions of reality any better.
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