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Your Thoughts on Secular Governments?
lordfox:
--- Quote from: Abdul-Hadi on April 27, 2012, 08:39:47 AM ---Greetings and Peace, all :group:
I contrasted his idea with reality--not "ridicule" his ideas (loaded language much? ;)). Perchance he will provide evidence of success of his idealized system in the real world.
Further, in debunking my alleged strawman, you resorted to ad hominem.
Remove the beam from your own eye before attempting to remove the speck from mine.
Somalia is an extreme example, but it is one grounded in reality.
ALLAH knows best.
:peace:
~Abdul-Hadi
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Forget it, you understand neither strawman nor argumentum ad hominem - when it is sophism and when it is not - nor the present system of Somalia and how it came about, nor Kaikoerend's ideal system. In sum, you like last word and not true debate.
:giveup:
Mr.Q:
--- Quote from: lordfox on April 27, 2012, 08:29:46 AM ---Kaiokenred believes in the concept of a polycentric community - a natural law, a 'human energy' economic system and a complete allodial right of use. To ridicule his ideas, you give the example of Somalia, of which the system has no relation whatsoever with the one Kaiokenred defends.
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This is found in the Quran where?
lordfox:
--- Quote from: Mr.Q on April 27, 2012, 10:53:12 AM ---This is found in the Quran where?
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If it is a real question rather than an ironic statement disguised as one, then you will be interested to read the following fully:
http://servantofthelight.com/content/view/68/98/
http://servantofthelight.com/content/view/167/202/
http://servantofthelight.com/content/view/162/197/
http://servantofthelight.com/content/view/163/198/
Mr.Q:
You mean to say I have to read reams of someone else's opinions for you to show me where you found something you support in the Quran?
Why not just give the verses and I will look in the Quran and read it for myself and decide the use and context of the verses given? Why not just give the verses you based your view on? ;)
lordfox:
--- Quote from: Mr.Q on April 27, 2012, 02:03:10 PM ---You mean to say I have to read reams of someone else's opinions for you to show me where you found something you support in the Quran?
Why not just give the verses and I will look in the Quran and read it for myself and decide the use and context of the verses given? Why not just give the verses you based your view on? ;)
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It is very unfortunate to see more and more people seeking defiance instead of peaceful discussion. If you were to click simply on the first link I provided you, you would have made an astonishing, law-defying discovery: The verses you so deeply want to ponder on are on the first paragraph.
I gave you links where the appropriated verses are detailed, you are free to study them alone and to ignore the ramblings of the so-very mad, deluded and evil lunatic who, to make fit his own agenda, decided to create a website where he'd write essays filled with logical fallacies, to manipulate men for his own profit and by-so, slowly conquer the world and then the entire universe.
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