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Always work for SHARIA, Deathpenalty for faggots and atheists.
« on: February 16, 2012, 03:11:47 PM »
Satan the faggot never stops until he percieves his own death. Always push for SHARIA, deathpenalty for gays and atheists. And all hypocrites and other faggotrash.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 06:18:04 PM »
As-Salaam Alaikum,

This is a terrible post, and the same one tried to criticize me for my Lucifer post (which actually had merit) lol.

I don't agree with or support homosexuality in any way either, but it's highly inappropriate and offensive to call such people "faggots", and it's scary to force the death penalty on such individuals. Allah alone is their judge for their action of being gay does not hurt or tread on other peoples freedoms, neither does disbelief i.e. atheism. To say that atheist are deserving of death is promoting the shrewed idea that Islam is spread by the sword, which it is not. This is heretical (and dangerous) Wahabi ideology which should be avoided and refuted whenever it is brought to light.

Death penalty is reserved only for three offenses, and that's murder, rape and child molestation. Nothing else to my knowledge constitutes death penalty.

Let me remind this brother and all the brothers and sisters here that Allah says in his Word the following:

"And tell My servants to say that which is best. Indeed, Satan induces [dissension] among them. Indeed Satan is ever, to mankind, a clear enemy." al-Qur'an 17:53

This verse makes it clear that we should always speak kind words and not insults, even to the sinners and non believers.

And Allah knows best.

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Re: Always work for SHARIA, Deathpenalty for faggots and atheists.
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 08:12:31 PM »
Peace. Gnosis, can you back up your claims if who desereves a death penalty with the verses from the Quran?

Thanks
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2012, 04:17:57 AM »
Peace. Gnosis, can you back up your claims if who desereves a death penalty with the verses from the Quran?

Thanks

As-Salaam Alaikum,

Not a problem.

"On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people" - al-Qur'an 5:3

The underline portion shows that an exception is given for slaying one who has commited murder or michief in the land. Many scholars say that homosexuality falls under "spreading mischief" but I find this unsupported because homosexuality does no harm to anyone except onesself. Rape and child molestation fall under "spreading mischief" because they are both just as serious as murder in that they permenently ruin the lives of the victims.

The Qur'an is very clear on the matter of murder though. There is also this ayat:

"O ye who believe! the law of equality is prescribed to you in cases of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, the woman for the woman. But if any remission is made by the brother of the slain, then grant any reasonable demand, and compensate him with handsome gratitude, this is a concession and a Mercy from your Lord. After this whoever exceeds the limits shall be in grave penalty." - al-Qur'an 2:178

This verse also however makes it clear that forgiveness and retribution is the better option in this case and most cases and that if forgiveness prevails then retributions should be made by the suspect and the suspect should no longer be condemned to death.

Hope this helps, and Allah knows best.

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 05:28:53 AM »
Satan the faggot never stops until he percieves his own death. Always push for SHARIA, death penalty for gays and atheists. And all hypocrites and other faggotrash.

Salam,
I understand your hatred against Satan but I have to ask you to watch your language and remember what God is telling us in the Quran and respect yourself and this forum.

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   God does not love/like the publicity/declaration/loudness with the evil from the saying, except who was caused injustice to/oppressed, and God was/is hearing/listening, knowledgeable.

Have you been oppressed by any gay or atheist? Then maybe you should talk to them personally and not pump your anger here.
Also remember:

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   So with what mercy from God you became lenient/softened to them, and if you were rough/rude/crude, hard/strong the heart/mind, they would have scattered/separated from around you, so forgive/pardon on them, and ask for forgiveness for them, and discuss/consult with them in the matter/affair, so if you decided/determined, so rely/depend on God, that God loves/likes the reliant/dependent .

God teaches us the best of manners, solet us remember and apply that whenever we get challenged. May God give us all patience. 

Salam.
فَبِأَيِّ آلأءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 12:42:56 PM »
Gnosis, if you are to kill someone for spreading mischief then you can kill them for anything. Going around fommiti g armed robberies is spreading mischief. Braking into houses and stealing is spreading mischief. Sleeping around before marige is spreading mischief. I think you have just picked what you personally find distaetefull and made up a death penalty for it.

Plus The only thing I might agree that Quran is saying what you are  saying is on murder.
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Re: Always work for SHARIA, Deathpenalty for faggots and atheists.
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2012, 10:20:36 AM »
Lol, sympathy with faggots and atheists are sympathy with the devil. If you really are a muslim you should feel the same way. There is no reason for any sympathy with this. I am watching the ridicolous trial of Anders Behring Breivik here in Norway. He should have been killed on the spot, nobody would have said anything. Killing him in selfdefence would have not been a crime. Yet we are going to waste a lot of taxpayers money, hiring in psychologists, who in no way represent ultimate truth, and hiring several laywers to defend him. IT IS A JOKE. Fucking kill him now. And that should happen with the gays who harass people online aswell. Why should we put up with this, supposedly in a grown democracy? That is just a sign that democracy accepts and legislates law according to imaginary concepts. Gays are lustfollowers, it is completely evident in ALL their culture. They have gay bathhouses etc. I mean a lot of them wont go out and say promiscuity is bad, but yet that is what gay is about, and we are supposed to even legislate marriage IN CHURCH? WTF man. And atheists, lol. Or apeshits as one can call them, always ask for proof for God, they reject God because there is no proof, and still they have no proof of no god. And they say religion is full of myths. Claiming chaotic processes creates the universe, with no further cause is a MYTH. Claiming to be sons of puddles of chemicals ARE MYTHS. It is provocative idiocy, what they say. And they shold be killed. And having such laws would put the fear of God in them, and the provocative idiot satan would be nowhere to be seen, and openly cultivating his desire, and no doubt doing many objectionable things behind scenes. IRAN in this respect is a more MATURE DEVELOPED country, who rejects imaginary shaytans, claiming them to be human nature. Religion supports infinite surrender, and the boundless unfolding of the human soul. Everything else is an enemy. TO YOU SHAYTAN IS A CLEAR ENEMY SO TREAT HIM LIKE ONE.

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2012, 05:16:37 PM »
^Lol I didn't know we had a Wahabi on a Qur'an alone site. Beware of these type.

Gnosis, if you are to kill someone for spreading mischief then you can kill them for anything. Going around fommiti g armed robberies is spreading mischief. Braking into houses and stealing is spreading mischief. Sleeping around before marige is spreading mischief. I think you have just picked what you personally find distaetefull and made up a death penalty for it.

Plus The only thing I might agree that Quran is saying what you are  saying is on murder.

"On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people" - al-Qur'an 5:3

The spreading of mischief is understood in the proper context as the type of mischief that would be equally as serious as murder.

In the ayat of Allah, He is discussing how serious of a crime murder is, as He says the murder of one person "would be as if he slew the whole people". He gives exceptions for the slaying of one who has comitted murder (a very serious offense) and for spreading mischief.

The crimes that you described, which were robbery and theft would not be considered part of the "spreading mischief", and they have their own punishments within al-Qur'an:

"[As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they committed as a deterrent [punishment] from Allah . And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise." al-Qur'an 5:38

^The Arabic word "yad" for hand is used in the Qur'an both literal and metaphorically as per ayat 27:12 is literal while ayat 5:64 uses it metaphorically. Metaphorically speaking, cutting of the hands would mean cutting off their resources i.e. income etc to repay the debt of whatever was stolen and any other harm done. Dependent upon the crime, both understandings can be used i.e for repeated convictions of theft crimes, the literal understanding can be applied to prevent them from repeating it again.

Murder is a very serious crime as it permanently terminates the life of one, and permanently effects the lives of others i.e. family members and loved ones. It is the fact that murder cannot really be paid back and it endangers the lives of others in society and if the victim and society does not choose to excuse their crime (which they have a right to do), then the only repayment for the victims life is the life of the one who commited the crime. Rape permanently brings trauma to the victims for the rest of their lives and that cannot be paid back. Their life will forever be one of that has that dark memory and fear that it won't happen again. It phychologically effects people permanently. This is especially for virgins who get raped. You cannot pay back virginity. Rapist also threaten the livelihood of the society with fear, STD's, etc. Child molestation is equally as serious as a crime for the same reasons.

It is in these ways that Rape and Child molestation are equally as serious as Murder and can be understood as being the "spreading of mischief in the land" that ayat 5:3 mentions. The "in the land" being part of the ayat stresses that this type mischief is one that also threatens society, which Murder, Rape and Child molestation does.

As the punishment for Murder is death, so should it be the punishment for Rape and Child molestation, for they are equally as serious of a crime as Murder, so the punishment should be equal. This would then make both ayat 5:3 and ayat 2:178 agree.  :handshake:

Hope this helps.  :sun:

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Re: Always work for SHARIA, Deathpenalty for faggots and atheists.
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2012, 06:11:40 PM »
What are you gonna do gnosis? Sit there in front of your computer and imagine dicks up your ass or what?
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2012, 06:49:19 PM »
Get some psychoanalysis or find some kind of cure for yourself!
LET GO AND LET GOD!

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