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Re: Questions to quraniyoon
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2012, 07:27:35 AM »
To answer your first question:

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: There is no prescribed punishment for one who has sexual intercourse with an animal.
Abu Dawud 38:4450


 ::) :hypno:  :&

6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
 
3:51    إن الله ربي وربكم فاعبدوه هذا صرط مستقيم
3:51    Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him,

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Re: Questions to quraniyoon
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2012, 07:34:17 AM »
::) :hypno:  :&

:rotfl:

Yes it is scary!

But we can't question the great Abu Dawood Sulayman ibn Ash'ath Azdi Sijistani now can we?

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Re: Questions to quraniyoon
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 07:48:40 AM »
:rotfl:

Yes it is scary!

But we can't question the great Abu Dawood Sulayman ibn Ash'ath Azdi Sijistani now can we?

Salaam bro,

Yes! We can question this with looooong name person's [above said] blind followers, may be Sunna-hero, but the first question is, will he be able to answer ?

May Allah protect us.  :pr

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6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
 
3:51    إن الله ربي وربكم فاعبدوه هذا صرط مستقيم
3:51    Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him,

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Re: Questions to quraniyoon
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2012, 08:17:35 AM »
How much you should beat your wife???  How about not at all!  2:223.  Using the analogy of women as cultivation, do you know anything about farming?  Do you really think that you cause the earth to give forth its goodness by treating it poorly?  For the soil to take care of you, you must take care of it, you give it what it needs, you carefully monitor its health, etc.  In short, you treat the ground from which your sustenance comes from better than you treat yourself.  You don't do the equivalent of beating.

There is no honor in striking your wife in any fashion whatsoever.  If a man feels his wife is rebellious, the Quran gives him leave to make his point by separating from her, and then if need be, begin divorce proceedings.

I have been involved in martial arts in some form or another since I was 11.  There is nothing honorable or manly about striking someone who you are given charge by God to protect and nurture.  It is an act of cowardice.  If you want to fight, join a gym.  Take on an opponent that is your equal and do not increase oppression of those God demands that you protect.

You are so westerner in the way you think. talking to u is like talking to a person Holland. Last time I was in Holland people there asked me the most silly questions audubillah like can a woman beat her husband also or can a woman have multiple husbands also. what happened to the world that they cannot see the noor allah and his rasool gave to the world but allah tells us anyway that kafirs would stay in hell fire forever

I don't say that each and everyone shall beat his wives but some women do not understand anything beside beating and by the way there are several rules to how to beat your wife according to sunnah ..... not leave a mark on her face and not make her ugly. That is why we say beat her only with a miswaak. The intention is not to hurt her the intention is to make her obedient to you. Now if your son wants to jump outside from the window what would you do?
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Re: Questions to quraniyoon
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 08:31:52 AM »
You are so westerner in the way you think.

Thank you.  Coming from the likes of you, I consider this a compliment.

I don't say that each and everyone The intention is not to hurt her the intention is to make her obedient to you. Now if your son wants to jump outside from the window what would you do?

What if your wife is smarter than you?  Why should she be "obedient" to your stupidity if you are insisting on a financial decision that will ruin your household?  She should follow your stupidity simply because you have a penis?  And maybe you have children that are mindless robots to your authority to the point that they cannot use reason and know not to jump out of windows, but mine are not.  They have enough sense to not jump out of a window.

This example you have provided perfectly illustrates the difference between how hadithers think compared to the people on this forum.  Just like you assume that children cannot learn to think for themselves from a young age and choose what is right, you assume that people are so inherently stupid that they actually need hadiths for everything like brushing teeth and going to the bathroom and the imams and scholars to issue fatwas for what can and should be governed by common sense.

Edit: Now that I think of it - there were several well-written responses to your original post, and yet you chose to ignore those and respond to mine.  And that with more idiocy about me being a westerner, and "mercifully" beating women into submission under the assumption that all men are smarter than women and that children require beatings to keep them from jumping out of windows.  Really???  Respond to the others before responding to me.  I'm in too much shock that people like you actually still exist to give you any sort of a polite and thoughtful answer.  "Muslims" like you are the reason why I put off reading the Quran for so long, and the reasons why I stopped reading it for months after acknowledging Mohammed as a prophet and the inspiration of the Quran.  So long as you hold to such barbarous and inhumane opinions, I extent to you no peace nor do I consider you my brother.

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Re: Questions to quraniyoon
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2012, 09:24:52 AM »
The world was not created for Prophet Muhammad.

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This is the answer of the Permanent Committee for Research and Fatwâ in Saudi Arabia

There is no authentic hadîth from the Prophet (peace be upon him) that Allah had created the universe for the sake of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

Allah says: “I have only created Jinns and men, that they may worship me.” [Sûrah al-Dhâriyât: 56]
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Re: Questions to quraniyoon
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2012, 11:26:25 AM »
Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

@Sunnah-hero:

1. Unlawful. Evidence:

7:33 Say: "My Lord has made unlawful lewdness; what is evident of it and what is subtle; and sin, and aggression without cause, and that you set up partners with GOD that which He has never authorized, and that you say about GOD what you do not know."

2. Yes; and it varies in different locations in the world. Timing is the first full moon after the summer solstice. The summer solstice varies according to location. Use the search function for details; details are based in AQ.

3. Yes, but not limited to them alone. Evidence:

5:54 O you who believe, whoever from among you turns away from His system, then GOD will bring a people whom He loves and they love Him; humble towards the believers, proud towards the rejecters; they strive in the cause of GOD and do not fear to be blamed by those who blame. This is the grace of GOD, He bestows it upon whom He wills; GOD is Encompassing, Knowledgeable.

4. Yes. Evidence:

41:6 Say: "I am no more than a human being like you. It is inspired to me that your god is One god, therefore you shall be upright towards Him and seek His forgiveness. And woe to the polytheists."

5. Loaded question much? AQ doesn't say beat at all! Evidence:

4:34 The men are to support the women with what GOD has bestowed upon them over one another and for what they spend of their money. The upright females are dutiful; keeping private the personal matters for what GOD keeps watch over. As for those females from whom you fear desertion, then you shall advise them, and abandon them in the bedchamber, and separate from them. If they respond to you, then do not seek a way over them; GOD is Most High, Great.

6. Each according to their means. Evidence:

25:67 And those who when they give they are not excessive nor stingy, but they are in a measure between that.

2:219 They ask you about intoxicants and gambling. Say: "In them is great harm, and a benefit for the people; but their harm is greater than their benefit." And they ask you how much they are to give, say: "The excess." It is thus that GOD clarifies for you the revelations that you may think.


7. Post puberty and sound mind. Evidence:

4:6 And test the orphans when they reach puberty, then, if you have determined from them comprehension, then give them their money, and do not deliberately consume it wastefully or quickly before they grow up. And whoever is rich, then let him not claim anything, and if he is poor then let him consume in kindness. If you give to them their money, then make a witness for them, and GOD is enough for Reckoning.

24:31 And tell the believing females to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent, and let them put forth their shawls over their cleavage. And let them not reveal their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or those maintained by their oaths, or the male servants who are without need, or the child who has not yet understood the composition of women. And let them not strike with their feet in a manner that reveals what they are keeping hidden of their beauty. And repent to GOD, all of you believers, that you may succeed.

24:58 O you who believe, let those who are maintained by your oaths, and those who have attained puberty, request your permission regarding three times: before the dawn contact prayer, and when you put off your garments from the noon time, and after the evening contact prayer. These are three private times for you. Other than these times, it is not wrong for you or them to intermingle with one another. GOD thus clarifies the revelations for you. And GOD is Knowledgeable, Wise.

24:59 And when the children among you reach puberty, then let them seek permission like it was sought by those before them. GOD thus clarifies His revelations for you. And GOD is Knowledgeable, Wise.


8. 2:26 GOD does not shy away from putting forth the example of a mosquito, or anything above it. As for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their Lord. As for the rejecters, they say: "What does GOD intend with this example?" He strays many by it, and He guides many by it; but He only strays by it the wicked.

9. No. However:

6:115 And the word of your Lord has been completed with truth and justice; there is no changing His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower.

10. One can't know this from AQ. Mecca is not the same as Bacca.

4:119 "And I will misguide them and make them desire, and I will command them, so that they will mark the ears of the livestock, and I will command them so they will make changes to the creation of GOD." Whoever takes the devil as a supporter other than GOD, then he has indeed lost a great loss.

11. One can't know this from AQ.

11:18 And who is more wicked than he who invents lies about GOD? They will be displayed before their Lord, and the witnesses will say: "These are the ones who have lied about their Lord." Alas, the curse of GOD will be upon the wicked.

12. No. Evidence:

2:256 There is no compulsion in the system; the proper way has been clarified from the wrong way. Whoever rejects evil, and believes in GOD indeed he has taken grasp of the strongest hold that will never break. GOD is Hearer, Knower.

24:33 And let those who are not able to marry continue to be chaste until GOD enriches them of His Bounty. And if those who are maintained by your oaths seek to consummate the marriage, then document it with them if you find that they are ready, and give them from the wealth of GOD which He has bestowed upon you. And do not force your young women to need if they have desired to be independent, in order that you may make a gain in the goods of this worldly life. And if anyone has compelled them, then for their compulsion, GOD is Forgiving, Merciful.


Having addressed these questions, it is only fair that you answer the following questions--which really aren't hard questions:

1. "Shall I seek other than GOD as a judge when He has sent down to you the Book fully detailed?"

2. "Shall we call upon other than GOD what cannot benefit us or harm us, and we turn back on our heels after GOD has guided us?" 

3. "Shall I seek other than GOD as a Lord when He is the Lord of everything?"

4. "Do you see what you call on besides GOD, If GOD wanted any harm for me, can they alleviate His harm? Or if He wanted a mercy for me, can they hold back his mercy?"

5. "Shall we follow one of us; a human being?"

6. Is there any changing the words of ALLAH?

7. Did ALLAH authorize extra-Quranic hadith?

8. "Have you seen what GOD has sent down to you from provisions, then you have made some of it forbidden and some lawful?" "Did GOD authorize you, or do you invent lies about GOD?"

9. Is it monotheism to take from other than what ALLAH has authorized and protected as a guide?

10. Are there contradictions in extra-Quranic hadith?

11. Is AQ completely true?

12. If a person turns away from truth while knowing, does that make them a hypocrite, a rejecter, or both?  :hmm

Enjoy this life!

ALLAH knows best.

 :peace:

~Abdul-Hadi

my reply to ur answers.

1. Thats not an answer. I asked if sex with animals are allowed or not according to the quran and not about lewdness. By the way what you consider as lewdness might not be ledwness according to another person. Maybe sex with animals isnt lewdness for someone can he then have sex with animals? Can you define lewdness using the quran alone?

2. where is that written in the quran?

3. so sahaba karam were not important/

4.from where do u know that this command was to muhammad?

5. darab means beat. i myself i am lebanese from lebanon arab and arabic is my native language. darab means beat

6. so one is left to decide for himself regarding how much charity he wants to give?

7. when is a person mature? Qur'an 65:4 As for those who have reached menopause from your women, if you have any doubts, their interim shall be three months - as well as for those who did not menstruate. And those who are already pregnant, their interim is until they give birth. And anyone who reverences God, He makes his matters easy for him.

so if we were to follow quran alone men would be allowed to marry babies  :rotfl:

hey BTW. quran says we shall make wudu but does quran also tells us what breaks wudu?
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Re: Questions to quraniyoon
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2012, 11:31:19 AM »
Shalom Aleikhem,

You have your right to express your opinion. However, I dont see why any of us should apologize simply because you consider yourself to have intelligence similar to a cockroach , a mentally challenged cockroach !!

Let me add some more questions to your list :

13. How do you know how to kill innocent people just because they don't believe in Allah by following Qur'an alone ?
14. How do you know how to mutilate genitals using Qur'an alone ?
15. How do you know how to wipe your butt using Qur'an alone ?
16. How do you know how to contradict the Qur'an and call it sunnah of rasul , using Qur'an alone ?
17. How do you know how to promote child molestation using Qur'an alone ?
18. How do you know how to worship the prophet using Qur'an alone ?
19. How do you know how to worship prophet's bloodline using Qur'an alone ?
20. How do you know how to worship prophet's companions using Qur'an alone ?
21. How do you know how to reject St. Paul's writing because its man made and accept St. Bukhari's writing using Qur'an alone ?
22. How do you know how to become monkey as stated in Qur'an (5:60) and learn stone to death from monkeys using Qur'an alone ?
23. How do you know that there is no changer of Allah's words except goats , using Qur'an alone ?

Anyways, the next group of God alone muslims you find, ask them these questions too. :) Your questions confirm the truth of "evolution theory".

God !!! not all are fully evolved.....


Peace
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quran was revealed according to episodes of our prophet sws life. His life was the yardstick for the revelations..... how do u know the reason or true meaning behind a verse without using history of the prophet sws ?

quran does not even discuss how to pray if there is no sun in your area. How do u solve this problem using quran alone....??

make fun of me as much u can. let me see if u are able to answer my questions in the first place.
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Re: Questions to quraniyoon
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2012, 01:01:33 PM »
Salaam

Mr sunah hero is just a puppet on the hands of the manipulation..of course youre mind is robotic so that you need hundreds of books and more tousands to explain the fake hadith that are used to distort the Quran AlKerreem, that sunnah fables is just a semi-copy of the bible, inteligent people think for themselfs, your mind and the ones you follow(wich of course is not Allah S.W.T ) are the darkside of world humanity Ummah, Today i understand why the Kaliph of Cordoba just get out of the crazinesse that Sunnah heros like you were inposing in the times of AlAndalus .. if you are smart enought you will stay in the blogs wich blinded people like you have their future imagined and traced by fakeschollars and false leaders, your are idoleter, but anyway may Allah bless you and keep you away from doing wrong against others like your soudihouse friends do >:D

Salaam to all and just ignore the devil_hero is the best way :jedi:
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Re: Questions to quraniyoon
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2012, 02:31:06 PM »
7. when is a person mature? Qur'an 65:4 As for those who have reached menopause from your women, if you have any doubts, their interim shall be three months - as well as for those who did not menstruate. And those who are already pregnant, their interim is until they give birth. And anyone who reverences God, He makes his matters easy for him.

so if we were to follow quran alone men would be allowed to marry babies  :rotfl:

How dare you make fun of aayat of AlQuraan? Do you forget that Allah is gonna make you stand alone in front of Him to show you what you have done? How you gonna answer? This is what you have respect for the word of Allah? How dare you quote the aayat and make fun of it?  :&  :&  :&

Surely I will be the witness in Judgement Day for what you have done.

Repent now! Ask Allah's forgiveness as soon as you read this. Hopefully Allah may forgive you. Don't you know what Allah is? He is Creator of everything. Did you understand His powers? I don't think so you do, otherwise you would have shivered before you write that sentence.

How can you give more importance to man written books over Allah's aayat? You wrote all garbage with so much respect and make fun of Allah's word? How dare you?  :&

Oh Allah please please please forgive us all and do not catch us on our mistakes that we do in ignorance. Oh Allah, please forgive us and guide us all to Your true path. Oh Allah!! Please make us 100% free from all kind of Shirk and make us pure servant of Yours. Oh Allah!! Please accept this from me  :pr

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6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
 
3:51    إن الله ربي وربكم فاعبدوه هذا صرط مستقيم
3:51    Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him,