So my new friend on free-minds bender thinks that he can beat me with the quran. now to all the quraniyoon who think of themselves Albert Einstein (And all quraniyoon consider themselves being Albert Einstein) if you REALLY ARE Albert Einstein my dear quraniy friend, than answer all my FOLLOWING questions FROM THE QURAN:
1. Is sex with animals lawful or unlawful according to the quran?
2. Can you tell me from quran when the month ramadan is?
3. Can you tell me something about sahaba karam from quran?
4. Can you tell me something about our exalted prophet sws (on whom Allah said: if it was not for you I wont create the world) from quran?
5. Can you tell me from quran how much you should beat your wife according to quran? (our hadith says beat with her with a miswaak. But if you follow quran only you wont have a problem with breaking her bones since no limit of beating is set in the quran)
6. How much charity should you give according to the quran?
7. In Which age can a person marry according to the quran only? (According to hadith its 9 years for a girl. Whats the age stated in quran?)
8. How do you explain Surah fil according to the quran? Who are we talking about?
9. Who was Abo Lahab according to the quran ?
10. How do you know from the quran only that the pilgrime is in mekka?
11. How do you know from the quran only that we should circulate 7 times around the kaaba?
12. Is forced marriages lawful according to the quran?
You say HADITH NOT REQUIRED ONLY QURAN REQUIRED than my dear wannabe Albert Einsteins please answer all my above questions from the QURAN ONLY.. this is my new challenge . Let the whole world know that Quran cannot be separated from the Sunnah of our exalted sws.
Dear Sunna-Hero;
I am non-Muslim, but I know Sunnism is theologically, religiously, spiritually, intellectually and morally wrong. I have addressed it to the extent that if ahadith are needed for Islam, everyone should leave it due to the massive doctrinal contradiction. You are thus in a quandary.
Now certain questions ask details which are not relevant to this, but we will see that as I answer. There are also answers where I can provide more background, so if you are serious, I will direct you if you so wish.
Note that I will answer you using your traditional understanding, just to prove that I do not have to give alternative views to "get around" anything.
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1. As pointed out above, lewdness and sex with other than the opposite sex is condemned. I wrote about masturbation, and the conclusion is that you should avoid erotic thoughts when you can, and if you can’t, then let it out quickly without making a fool of yourself in front of Allah. For example. lowering your gaze serves the purpose of
minimizing certain thoughts. This question shows that you have not mastered the responsibility of adhering to Qur’anic PRINCIPLE. Is there prohibition against sex with watermelons in ahadith?
2. The month of Ramadan was known then, so it is like asking “Does the Qur’an teach you Arabic?” The Qur’an says the months are already well-known. Certain things (e.g. knowlegde of Arabic and how to count) are assumed. For example, suppose I am unfamiliar with any calendar - will ahadith help me? What if I don't know what the date is now?
All in all it fails to qualify as a candidate for "explanation". "Sunna" was not needed, because it was already known. You should stick with things which MAY require additional revelation, otherwise it is irrelevant to "sunna".
3. You have to prove that it’s relevant first. The Qur’an does mention about the next generations.
4. A silly question based on an un-Qur’anic premise.
5. If you want to look at it like that (I do not agree with "idhrib" as "beat"), then it must be done in a way that has a purpose. “Beating them” makes no sense when it comes to preventing divorce, so let us use that point to conclude it must be symbolic (i.e. a last statement).
The wife cannot be hospitalised, for she could not obey him afterwards (4:34). At least, she would not want to because women are not cattle who change their tune with violence. Rather, it should be an expression of contempt for her viewpoint. Divorce is not preferred (4:35), so all steps should be consistent with preventing it (not accelerating it). Thus, the head and sensitive/vulnerable parts should be avoided. This is consistent with the ahadith. The man would maybe lightly strike her once on the shoulder and push her (set forth) away a little, or once lightly on the chest. This would indicate he has had enough and that the "divorce wheel" is rolling. As soon as she obeys, the matter should be taken no further. If the man has struck her in this way once, and she is still resilient, separation should be sought (4:35). Striking more than once is adding to what the verse actually says.
We should use critical thinking, common sense and all principles in the Qur’an. “Striking” her has nothing to do with physically harming the wife. Situations should be dealt with according to what is appropriate. A man may separate from her instead.
6. As much as you can give (see 2:219).
7. Through simple deduction, when they are fully-matured physically and of sound mind (4:6, 17:34).
8. See next answer.
9. This shows you don’t know what the Qur’an is.
The Qur'an is a Book of moral and spiritual guidance (e.g. 7:52, 17:9), similitudes/examples (e.g. 3:61, 17:89, 66:1-5), narratives (e.g. 12:3), parables (e.g. 14:24) and real-time Revelations (e.g. 9:5, 33:59). All of these attributes contribute to the guiding quality of its Message.
All Revelation permanent to its addresses is included (e.g. 33:50). Where required, context is provided by the Qur'an itself.
Knowing the exact identity of Abu Lahab and his actions would make the example more effective. However, readers would be expected to confirm any details if they so desired, thus the importance of this surah lies in the demonstration of the powerlessness of humans (as opposed to God’s power in Sura 105). Abu Lahab (and his wife) obviously fell into the category of requiring forgiveness for sins, but would not be forgiven since they would not repent.
God forgives those who repent (8:38, 25:70, 85:10-11 etc.), thus in this way it is a prophecy. The point of the chapter is that the wealth and deeds of a human will not save him or her if he or she earns God’s displeasure. It thus also serves as a warning to others. Knowing Abu Lahab’s story is not important unless he is an article of faith (much the same way the orphans are in 4:3!).
Likewise, I can explain Sura 105 which re-emphasises God’s power. You don’t know how disappointed Islamophobes were when they used your tactics against me.
10. Pilgrimage is to the sacred masjid which was already known. They already knew where Bakka was, which is why other people went there (9:28). Suppose I have never heard of Mecca or Arabia - how will ahadith help me? Revisit the answer to question 2.
11. You don’t have to. Allah did not specify any number, but if it were established then He did not order it to be changed (seven is not too big and not too small, and thus should be available).
(It is worthwhile here to note that the pilgrimage is basically a large prayer. You are given the opportunity to express your devotion to Allah and ask His forgiveness on a grander scale, but good deeds are actually what discern a good person from a bad one (23:103-104, 90:11-17, 99:6-8, 106:6-9). However, without prayer Allah will not help one to eliminate their misdeeds (25:77), and so one must balance them by oneself. Good deeds bring one closer to Allah, and prayer/hajj without good deeds is impotent. One will not go to Hell simply for staying only two hours on Arafat or circling the Kaaba just once etc., but the more that one tries (in deed and devotion), the further you become from our past misdeeds.) You are not going to go to Hell for doing it once, because you actually performed the Hajj!
If you believe this is important, you misunderstand the point. Pietry is not in small things (2:177).
12. Just look at the purpose of marriage:
“They (wives) are an apparel for you and you (husbands) are an apparel for them.” (2:187)
“And they (wives) have rights similar to those against them in a just manner.” (2:228)
“And when you divorce women and they reach their prescribed time, then either retain them in good fellowship or set them free with liberality, and do not retain them for injury.” (2:231)
“O you who believe! it is not lawful for you that you should take women as heritage against (their) will, and do not straiten them m order that you may take part of what you have given them, unless they are guilty of manifest indecency, and treat them kindly.” (4:19)
“And if a woman fears ill-usage or desertion on the part of her husband, there is no blame on them, if they effect a reconciliation between them, and reconciliation is better.” (4:128)
“And one of His signs is that He created mates for you from yourselves that you may find rest in them, and He put between you love and compassion.” (30:21)
Women have the same marital rights as men (2:228), and marriage is a product of consent and wanting and INTENDING to live together (in a state of harmony). If discomfort in marriage is foreseeable, people will not marry. If unforeseen discomfort occurs, they may eventually separate.
Women cannot be inherited against their will, which includes men giving women to men. For example, a man may give his sister to a man via a will, but this was forbidden. A man unrelated to the woman obviously has less right over her than a sibling, so this is included also.
The Qur'an provides all principles relevant to righteousness. It sets the responsibility on you to study it, but your laziness is your excuse to follow something else (and somehow deserve to be called "Muslim"!).
Now be a real hero and tell me where you got this:
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603541.msg293307#msg293307Cheers.
