Abdul-hadi
Without the Hadith there would be no Abrogation, the Qur'an can then be interpreted in multiple ways.
This is my point! If there is no sunnah of our beloved prophet pbuh and every muslim was a quran-only muslim that would mean that every muslim almost had his own islamic religion. You know why? Because everyone would interpret and understand quran in different ways. And your own cult shows us that. I never met two quran-only muslims with the same view on islam. For instance, I've met quran-only muslims who pretty much are similar to sunnis - they read and believe tabari and so on, they believe that the prophet was muhammed and he had aisha and hafsah and so on but they say that they use hadith to know about muhammed - not to know about islam(hadith are reliable as history but not as religious commands)! This is not only a contradiction of itself but also shows the hypocrisy of the quran-only muslims. If you trust the hadith as history than it means that you believe hadith are true - than you must also admit that you have to follow them since they are reliable information about the holy prophet (pbuh) and than you would also admit that you actually DO use extra-quranic information. On the other hand, I've met 'hardcore' quran-only muslims who even doubts whether there was someone called muhammad (pbuh) who ever existed simply because the quran does not confirm that. They also are not sure about whether there was some wife aisha or whether the quran was revealed around year 600. All they can say is that God sent a book to an unknown messenger who logically was an arab, and thats all!
I also met quran-only muslims who had very different views regarding almost everything in islam, from praying to marriage and so on. That is why I emphasize my believe that the propblem with quran-only muslims is that every quran-only muslim has his own religion. Just look at this forum. Some quran-only muslims believes in death for apostates, slavery, polygamy and so on(if you think wahabism is very anti-human religion than you would certainly meet some quran-only muslims who are more anti-human rights persons than the wahabis since quran is left open to every interpretation) while other quran-only muslims believes that polygamy is forbidden and so is slavery also forbidden and so is alcohol not forbidden and so on. Cant you see the problem? How will you unite our Ummah when every single person in the ummah has his own religion?
That is why we need the sunnah of the prophet (pbuh) in order to ensure that all muslims agree upon the deen.
That is why I think the sunnah is not only important but crucial in order to understand Islam. Or would you say that the muslims through 1400 years have misunderstood their religion?
Another thing is that I dont see the love for the prophet muhammed (PBUH) in this forum.
I hope I have made my point very clear and that I wont be mocked once again
Salaam Sunnah Hero
May peace be upon you and I hope peace will be upon me.
I am not going to argue with you about details and such, but I would like to clarify things that you may have overlooked.
You must understand the fact that being a muslim following the Quran as the only divine source creates by itself individuality, because that is what Allah prescribes. We do not see individual thought as negative, we see it as positive because it guarantees a dynamic and progressive approach to our faith. We do not want to be "stuck", we do not believe in the good old days. We realize that faith and mankind must walk side by side, one cannot dictate in a way that will halt the other. When you read the Quran it is so painfully obvious that Allah knows this, the Quran can be used in a culture 1400 years old, it can be used in today's culture and it can be used 1400 years into the future. Your hadith as a divine source will guarantee that islam will always lose against mankind.
It seems your argument against QA is mainly that we do not have a uniform opinion about various aspects of islam. What you "forget" is that you are talking to people from all around the world here. Every continent and every race is present and having discussions. The little (in your opinion) that we actually do agree about is a HUGE progress, we are able to agree even with cultural barriers. Sunni islam is by far more scattered than what you think, you got a range from suicide bombers to Ice Cube............You being anti AQ I think you should not point out to us that we are separated because we might do something about that. What if your posts encourage one of us to become more pro-active and make the QA movement a stronger force, starting to form us into unity? What if the QA will have a media breakthrough, how many would fall from your ranks and join us?
By using the arguments you are using here on this forum
open to the public will help us, not you. Potential muslims are reading. When a sunni muslim is proclaiming the right to have sex slaves and the QA is not, whose side do you think the potential muslim is going to join?
Why are you so scared of western influence? Are you scared of westerners like westerners are scared of easternes? Because you know all that fear is based on ignorance.
I know also it is difficult for you to see the lack of love for prophet Mohammed in the QA movement, but let me ask you, have you ever seen a QA mocking him? We see prophet Mohammed like you see Jesus or Moses or Abraham or any other of the prophets. We do not hate him, we do not think he was a bad man, whatever makes you think that?
