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dawngorgeous

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Coping without Salat
« on: January 17, 2012, 12:14:26 PM »
Peace All,

So, given that Salat is more than likely an assembley, how have people been establishing and practising salat on a regular basis? Myself and my husband perform a Salat when we have an issue we want to discuss.

What do others do?  I feel a little lost without the bowing, kneeling and prostrating!

Dawn.

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Re: Coping without Salat
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 12:40:04 PM »
You still think that prayer and assembly are the only definitions out there? :confused:
“Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.” - Buddha

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Re: Coping without Salat
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012, 04:26:50 PM »
Peace,

After I found out about the assembly, I stopped doing the ritual salat.  I was a bit confused as to how to perform the ritual salat without it being namaz from the Persians.  It was a big mistake for me.  I started to do the ritual one again and it helps a lot in having taqwa for Allah.  Not saying that you can't still have taqwa but that having prescribed times in the day to remember Allah helps.

From what I gather from the Qur'an (and from what others here too also accept) it is 3 times a day.  If you go to the free-minds homepage and click on the "What is Salat?" link would be a good start.  I also incorporate the rukoo and follow similar pattern to the sunnis (because of the one shown on submission.org).  I say a couple of ayat (such as ayat Al-kursi) from the Quran after Al-Fatiha, which is before the rukoo.  I have keep each salat equivalent to two rakaats.

When not doing salat (rest of the day), I repeat "La ilaha illallah" to myself to try and keep taqwa and be thankful for the bounties that he has given us.

Peace
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Re: Coping without Salat
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2012, 08:17:29 PM »
Hi Everyone,

I personally think Salat is a very important part of the day.  Sure you can think of it as assembly but I use it as a time for meditation.  Not simply thanking Allah or asking for guidance but a time to really connect with Allah.  The Quran mentions that one should meditate on it.  So I take an short Sura and meditate on it.  Repeat it over and over and let my mind relax so Allah can allow me to find the meaning of the Sura for me for that day.  I find that the meanings of some of the Suras change depending on the situation I am confronted with.

How many times a day?  I think most agree 3 times.

Format?  I think that so long as you are sincere you could vary the format.

How long?  Keep the meditations rather short so that you are compelled to meditate on them during your free time during the day.

Just my crazy thoughts

 :peace: Peace, Salam, Shalom :peace:
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dawngorgeous

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Re: Coping without Salat
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 11:16:08 AM »
Kaiokenred,

I am simply looking for the truth.  i am reading the Koran and talking to other people who submit to God alone.  I am searching.  Until last year I prayed 5 times a day like the sunnis, yet called myself a submitter.  I am not looking for an intellectual challenge or an intellectual spar, I am simply looking for civilized and peaceful discussion on the subject.  I have to say I don't appreciate your tone and would rather not engage with you as I feel you are treating me with disdain - frankly, something I can do without.

Dawn.

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Re: Coping without Salat
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 11:18:25 AM »
Frankly,  I don't care.
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Re: Coping without Salat
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 01:22:41 PM »
@Kaikenred,

Evidently not!!  Not very righteous though, I must say.

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Re: Coping without Salat
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 01:48:03 PM »
@Kaikenred,

Evidently not!!  Not very righteous though, I must say.

So not caring for your beliefs which  I find stupid is not righteous ? lolwut
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Re: Coping without Salat
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 02:00:15 PM »
I've been doing the ritualistic salat. While I don't think this is right or wrong, there has been other ways of people doing it. Some people just do readings from the Qur'an while others do the sunni style prostrating five times a day salat, etc. I guess it really depends on what makes a person feel closer to Allah as I think the whole purpose of salat is to establish a connection with your creator.

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Re: Coping without Salat
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 02:42:19 PM »
I've been doing the ritualistic salat. While I don't think this is right or wrong, there has been other ways of people doing it. Some people just do readings from the Qur'an while others do the sunni style prostrating five times a day salat, etc. I guess it really depends on what makes a person feel closer to Allah as I think the whole purpose of salat is to establish a connection with your creator.

Why would you need to connect with Allah who's closer than your jugular vein? :confused:
“Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.” - Buddha