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str41ghtw4y:
simplest explanation I could find, well worth a read, MANY implications across all forum topics....

http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/incompleteness/

str41ghtw4y:
I'll add a quick excerpt of the page to see if that sparks more interest:

"If you visit the world’s largest atheist website, Infidels, on the home page you will find the following statement:
“Naturalism is the hypothesis that the natural world is a closed system, which means that nothing that is not part of the natural world affects it.”
If you know Gödel’s theorem, you know all systems rely on something outside the system. So according to Gödel’s Incompleteness theorem, the folks at Infidels cannot be correct. Because the universe is a system, it has to have an outside cause.
Therefore Atheism violates the laws mathematics.
The Incompleteness of the universe isn’t proof that God exists. But… it IS proof that in order to construct a consistent model of the universe, belief in God is not just 100% logical… it’s necessary."

But this is only one implication of the theorems!

amuslim:
Peace,

Wow this stuff is very interesting but it is hard for me to thoroughly digest with my feeble mind.  I read parts of the website but it is hard to understand.  I will give a read through God Willing.  Thanks for this, maybe I can use this when trying to take a mathematical approach to God with other people.

Peace

IAMOP:
The core of paradox! I'm glad people are looking into this...



Peace

Student of Allah:
Shalom,

Nice. There is a BBC documentary, similar things. I really liked how mathematics can disprove mathematics. Its funny how I am frustrated by the certainty of scientific truths when all truth are resting on a cradle of the unknowable.

Link to the documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0hALyh40xg

PEACE
---------------- Student of Allah

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