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Re: Salat the unsolved mystery
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2011, 12:52:30 PM »
We all clearly know that salat means...chocolate.

Let us just leave it at that.
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Re: Salat the unsolved mystery
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2012, 08:20:45 PM »
We all clearly know that salat means...chocolate.

Let us just leave it at that.

Its reward is sweeter than chocolate, indeed.
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Re: Salat the unsolved mystery
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2012, 08:37:37 PM »
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16137.10

In this thread Arnold Yasin gives a great explanation of 'Salat. On the whole, the whole thread is a great read. Arnold was a great poster, hopefully one day he'll be back.

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Re: Salat the unsolved mystery
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2012, 07:25:36 AM »
It's a shame about Arnold's view on Rashad Khalifa, because everything he (Arnold) says, makes sense.  I wonder why Arnold feels Rashad 'stumbled' upon 19, like the Almighty had nothing to do with it!!!!

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Re: Salat the unsolved mystery
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2012, 06:49:48 PM »
It's a shame about Arnold's view on Rashad Khalifa, because everything he (Arnold) says, makes sense.  I wonder why Arnold feels Rashad 'stumbled' upon 19, like the Almighty had nothing to do with it!!!!

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Hmm, you sure? Heres what he says in that very same thread.

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Yes, but I do not believe Rashad to be a "messenger" as he did not bring anything new, nor do I believe does the Quran support a form of messenger without revelation, plus the Quran is complete. There were already large groups of Quran-alone groups in India and Pakistan and also in Egypt in the 1900's and they were already way ahead of him when it came to the Quranic Message. Even the Ahmediya scholar Muhammed Ali has a better understanding of the Quran then Rashad and he died in 1951. Rashad stumbled on the 19code, and later on developed a form of Messiah-syndrome caused probably by stress and the pressure of his community and his concept of he as a small man taking up the 1Billion Hadith-muslims.

So I seperate the discoverer from the discovery. I do not believe the 19 code explains the Quran, it is just a verification method for the future generations. You cannot just say, I believe in the Quran, every letter and word must be accounted for in a sort of verification way, and mathematics is exactly the best tool for this. So from a scientific point of view it is logical God used this as his tool.

Sadly people have mixed up rashad to much with his discovery and his claim on messengership did not help and there are still to much factors involved to really see how it works. this is also why I believe it is for future generations and not us.

I always use this example concerning 19. To make use of a cow, does a common man need to know the DNA of the cow? Does he need to know the DNA to eat it, milk it or use its skin? No. DNA only interests a scientist, so lets keep it that way.

People have again used 19 for their personal salvation or gain, and this is why people are so confused about it.

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Re: Salat the unsolved mystery
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2012, 12:47:20 PM »
This Single Word Salat , has not been defined decisively by those who have deep knowledge of Arabic Language.

On the contrary, it has been defined in the clearest terms for centuries by the Arabs themselves: salāh is prayer. The Arabic language defines it in no other way.

However, the contention that exists among people of this community lies in the fact that some of us beleive that the Quran uses the word salāh in such a way as to give it a new meaning. I believe that to be true, but only to a very limited extent. I don't think that God's use of the word salāh (and all its verbal derivatives) is so distinct from its original use by the Arabs that it would warrant a new definition.

So I would say that whatever salāh is, it isn't so different to prayer.

Is it possible we are looking at the wrong Root of the word .

The root is saad laam waaw. Check out this thread: http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602945.msg295953#msg295953
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Re: Salat the unsolved mystery
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2012, 12:59:24 PM »
On the contrary, it has been defined in the clearest terms for centuries by the Arabs themselves: salāh is prayer. The Arabic language defines it in no other way.

However, the contention that exists among people of this community lies in the fact that some of us beleive that the Quran uses the word salāh in such a way as to give it a new meaning. I believe that to be true, but only to a very limited extent. I don't think that God's use of the word salāh (and all its verbal derivatives) is so distinct from its original use by the Arabs that it would warrant a new definition.

So I would say that whatever salāh is, it isn't so different to prayer.

The root is saad laam waaw. Check out this thread: http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602945.msg295953#msg295953

Yes it does.
Yes it is. Much different
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Re: Salat the unsolved mystery
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2012, 10:51:56 AM »
Yes it does.
Yes it is. Much different

ok thanks
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