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what is the bigest reason for you not believing in the hadith?
Emil:
--- Quote from: Eikonoklastes on October 28, 2011, 09:36:19 PM ---Peace Ervin,
It is not an infallible divinely-inspired text. That's the biggest reason. I want the guidance of The God, not of men.
May peace be with you.
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Me too
Ikrame:
biggest reason Allah established for us the religion Islam and called us muslim.
"Today, I have completed your religion, perfected My blessing upon you, and I have decreed Submission as the religion for you." Quran 5:3
No sunnism or shi'ism mentioned, didn't even excist when this verse and whole quran was revealed. And the verse is clear religion was completed by Allah.
Still people can think but Mohammed was living during that time so hadith was not needed he was a living example, but the religion Islam is not a new invention by the prophet Mohammed but it's founder was Abraham see:
3:95 "Muhammad, say: 'God is true. Follow the religion of Abraham. He was rightly inclined while he had no one around him of like mind.' "
6:161
"Muhammad, say: 'Truly, my lord, my superior has guided me to a way that is upstanding. It is an established and upright custom and culture; the religion of Abraham, one rightly inclined while he had no one around him of like mind.' "
22:78"Strive for God as He deserves to be strived for. He has chosen you, and has imposed no difficulty on you concerning custom. Follow the religion of your forefather and founder, Abraham! He has mentioned you, being the submissive ones earlier in this (compilation). Let the messenger and the message testify for you, and you testify for humanity! Keep to prayer, compliments, dignified speech, oratory, discipline & blessings, being promotions of good and well-being. Do what is best, vindicating and virtuous. Hold onto God. He is your support; the best of support and the best to help!"
2:135 But they will say, "Become Jews or Christians to be guided." Muhammad, say, "No. The religion of Abraham! He was rightly inclined while he had no one around him of like mind."
2:130"Those who will turn away from the religion of Abraham will only make fools of themselves. We have distinguished him in the earthly realm. In the very end he will surely be in the company of the righteous, the correct."
So that makes clear that Islam already exicted and that Abraham was the founder whithout the sunnah of Mohammed.
KDC501:
I only started Islam 5 years ago. I studied hadiths momentarily till I realized that hadiths had too many contradictions. Hadiths and Sunna are very dangerous. With these books people can formulate any type of sect, forbid what God has allowed and allow what God has forbidden. In addition the Quran is quite clear that the Quran is the ONLY teaching to be followed.
69:38 I swear by what you see.
69:39 What you do not see.
69:40 This is the utterance of an honorable messenger.(What is 'the utterance'??? )
69:41 It is not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you acknowledge.(The Quran is considered poetic so the utterance is the Quran and NOT hadith and sunna)
69:42 Nor the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed.
69:43 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
69:44 Had he attributed anything falsely to Us.
69:45 We would have seized him by the right.
69:46 Then, We would have severed his life-line.
69:47 None of you would be able to prevent it.
69:48 This is a reminder for the righteous.
Peace,
Kevin
Alladin:
Peace,
--- Quote from: Kaiokenred on October 29, 2011, 01:35:59 AM ---They're extremely stupid
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No disrespect, but please make more sense and give some arguments which convince you for not doing so. You sound like an arrogant child with this argument!
Peace
Emil:
--- Quote from: Alladin on October 30, 2011, 04:06:44 AM ---Peace,
No disrespect, but please make more sense and give some arguments which convince you for not doing so. You sound like an arrogant child with this argument!
Peace
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Peace Alladin
Our own Kaiokenred is an arrogant child because he is a child. But I have all the respect for him because in many ways he is much more wise than most of us when we were 14 years old. At least compared to myself, all I thought of was how to get laid and how to not to get caught smoking in school. Kaikonred is already at his mere age trying to find the right path.
Kaiokenred :peace: :hail
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