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what is the bigest reason for you not believing in the hadith?
Ervin:
Selam everyone. I would like to hear what's your strongest argument against the hadith? What argument against the hadith apeals to you the most?
Thanks
Eikonoklastes:
Peace Ervin,
It is not an infallible divinely-inspired text. That's the biggest reason. I want the guidance of The God, not of men.
May peace be with you.
Abdun Nur:
Salaam,
the Qur'an is a complete guide you need no other book, thats the Creators view of Hadith, you doubt the Creator? Is a follower of Hadith a Muslim if he refuses to take the guidance of the Creator?
Kaiokenred:
They're extremely stupid
mmkhan:
Salaam Ervin and :welcome:
Following are the reasons why I don't require hadith.
I asked Allah
1:5 اِہۡدِ نَا الصِّرَاطَ الۡمُسۡتَقِیۡمَ
1:5 Guide us to the straight path.
He answered
17:9 اِنَّ ہٰذَا الۡقُرۡاٰنَ یَہۡدِیۡ لِلَّتِیۡ ہِیَ اَقۡوَمُ وَ یُبَشِّرُ الۡمُؤۡمِنِیۡنَ الَّذِیۡنَ یَعۡمَلُوۡنَ الصّٰلِحٰتِ اَنَّ لَہُمۡ اَجۡرًا کَبِیۡرًا17:9 Indeed this AlQuraan guides to that which is straight, and it gives glad tidings to the believers who do good works that they will have a bountiful reward.
I found hadith is not required, again
Allah said
16:89 وَ یَوۡمَ نَبۡعَثُ فِیۡ کُلِّ اُمَّۃٍ شَہِیۡدًا عَلَیۡہِمۡ مِّنۡ اَنۡفُسِہِمۡ وَ جِئۡنَا بِکَ شَہِیۡدًا عَلٰی ہٰۤؤُلَآءِ ؕ وَ نَزَّلۡنَا عَلَیۡکَ الۡکِتٰبَ تِبۡیَانًا لِّکُلِّ شَیۡءٍ وَّ ہُدًی وَّ رَحۡمَۃً وَّ بُشۡرٰی لِلۡمُسۡلِمِیۡنَ16:89 And the Day We send to every nation a witness against them from themselves, and We have brought you as a witness against these. And We have sent down upon you the Book that explains for all things, and a guidance and a mercy and good tidings to those who have submitted.
I found hadith is not needed, again
Allah showed me
4:82 اَفَلَا یَتَدَبَّرُوۡنَ الۡقُرۡاٰنَ ؕ وَ لَوۡ کَانَ مِنۡ عِنۡدِ غَیۡرِ اللّٰہِ لَوَجَدُوۡا فِیۡہِ اخۡتِلَافًا کَثِیۡرًا4:82 Do they not reflect on the Qur'an? If it was from any other than God they would have found in it many a discrepancy.
Hence, I found hadith [which is full of contradictions] is not required, again
He warned me
5:43 وَ کَیۡفَ یُحَکِّمُوۡنَکَ وَ عِنۡدَہُمُ التَّوۡرٰىۃُ فِیۡہَا حُکۡمُ اللّٰہِ ثُمَّ یَتَوَلَّوۡنَ مِنۡۢ بَعۡدِ ذٰلِکَ ؕ وَ مَاۤ اُولٰٓئِکَ بِالۡمُؤۡمِنِیۡنَ5:43 And how can they make you their judge when they have the Torah, in which there is the judgment of God; then they turn away after that. Those are not believers.
I found Allah's judgement in AlQuraan/AlKitaab also then found hadith is not required, again
He explained
18:26 قُلِ اللّٰہُ اَعۡلَمُ بِمَا لَبِثُوۡا ۚ لَہٗ غَیۡبُ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَ الۡاَرۡضِ ؕ اَبۡصِرۡ بِہٖ وَ اَسۡمِعۡ ؕ مَا لَہُمۡ مِّنۡ دُوۡنِہٖ مِنۡ وَّلِیٍّ ۫ وَّ لَا یُشۡرِکُ فِیۡ حُکۡمِہٖۤ اَحَدًا 18:26 Say: "God is fully aware how long they remained, to Him is the unseen of the heavens and the earth, He sees and hears. They do not have besides Him any ally, and He does not share in His judgment with anyone."
I accepted and rejected all hadith, again
He asked me to tell you
2:120 وَ لَنۡ تَرۡضٰی عَنۡکَ الۡیَہُوۡدُ وَ لَا النَّصٰرٰی حَتّٰی تَتَّبِعَ مِلَّتَہُمۡ ؕ قُلۡ اِنَّ ہُدَی اللّٰہِ ہُوَ الۡہُدٰی ؕ وَ لَئِنِ اتَّبَعۡتَ اَہۡوَآءَہُمۡ بَعۡدَ الَّذِیۡ جَآءَکَ مِنَ الۡعِلۡمِ ۙ مَا لَکَ مِنَ اللّٰہِ مِنۡ وَّلِیٍّ وَّ لَا نَصِیۡرٍ2:120 Neither the Jews nor the Nazarenes will be pleased with you until you follow their creed. Say: "The guidance is the guidance of God." And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, then there is none who can help or protect you against God.
41:53 سَنُرِیۡہِمۡ اٰیٰتِنَا فِی الۡاٰفَاقِ وَ فِیۡۤ اَنۡفُسِہِمۡ حَتّٰی یَتَبَیَّنَ لَہُمۡ اَنَّہُ الۡحَقُّ ؕ اَوَ لَمۡ یَکۡفِ بِرَبِّکَ اَنَّہٗ عَلٰی کُلِّ شَیۡءٍ شَہِیۡدٌ41:53 We will show them Our signs in the horizons, and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that this is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is witness over all things?
May Allah keep us all guided and increase us in knowledge :pr
Mohammed M. Khan
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