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Kaiokenred

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Re: WAHHABISM - FITNA?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 01:38:36 PM »
What is Fitna?
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Re: WAHHABISM - FITNA?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 01:39:05 PM »
What is 'takfirism' ?
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Re: WAHHABISM - FITNA?
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2011, 02:24:01 AM »
Quote from: natashamina on October 09, 2011, 10:26:17 AM
Salaam everyone,

Too bad you don't believe in hadith, because there are delightful things in Al Bukhari regarding the "fitna" that would come in the last days. Here's a video stating that the "devil's horn" will appear in Hejaz, the desert of Saudi Arabia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy-oO57IpPw&feature=channel_video_title

There's also an excellent book called "Wahhabism" written by Jaafar Subhani, I'd like to invite you to read it. http://www.al-islam.org/wahhabism/

It is the Wahhabi movement that is responsible of "takfirism" i.e. proclaiming the other Muslims as non Muslims and sometimes stating they should be killed, thus promoting terrorism.

The doctrines are basically inspired by Ibn Taymiyyah, an antropomorphist Syrian thinker who lived during the Monghol invasion and who was executed for apostasy.

Western governments need Saudi Arabia because of its oil and are reluctant to see this danger.

Let's talk about it  :group:

Best regards & salaams,

Natasha Amina

You gotta be kidding me  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Re: WAHHABISM - FITNA?
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2011, 12:40:21 AM »
Hahaha.. the last post of Maha made me laugh... partly because i dont see how is it funny ?  :p please explain to me lol as i want to learn more about the origins of Salafism/ Wahabism... cuz... i still dont get it !  -_- lol

Anyways.. for that guy who is saying that we need to obey Jesus (sa).. the answer is YES

How ?  Through the message of the Injeel and because his religion was submission to God alone ( islam)
Now we are allowed to read the gospels that exist.. whether it be in the Bible or the ones that did not make it to the canonical list lol
as long as we use Quran as the Furqan ( Criterion )  So whatever we read , we must use the Quran as a judge

Should we obey Muhammed ( sa) ?   YES

How.. Through the message of the Quran...and following his religion of submission to God alone (islam)

The Quran is the BEST HADITH  Holy, and Divine from Allah swt.. but were uttered and RECITED by Muhammed ! This was his "collection of hadiths" the Quran and nothing but the Quran..... not the silly narrations of Bukhari, Trimizi, Muslim ect.. !!!

Every chain of narration of the ahadith ends with a companion of Muhammed or one of his family members.... none of them lived to be 100 yrs old.. yet the ahadith were not written UNTIL  100 to 400 years after his death !! LOL these people were all dead when a bunch of men begin to compile ahadith that varied in context and contradict one another... it gives me a headache and quite frankly i rather read direct guidance from God which is the Quran.. a fully detailed book !

Salaam !
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Re: WAHHABISM - FITNA?
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2012, 04:40:26 PM »
Quote from: Producer on October 11, 2011, 03:25:40 PM
natashamina, we have GRAVE TROUBLE!

The Christians have Great method converting Muslim into CHRISTIANS!


YOU MUST FIND A VERSE FROM QURAN FORBIDDING OBEYING JESUS !!!

Why would Muslims not obey Jesus or any prophet when they have all brought the SAME message? If you reject Jesus you reject Muhammad and all the prophets.
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Re: WAHHABISM - FITNA?
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2012, 04:56:43 PM »
Quote from: bodhitharta on April 02, 2012, 04:40:26 PM
Why would Muslims not obey Jesus or any prophet when they have all brought the SAME message? If you reject Jesus you reject Muhammad and all the prophets.

I think the questions are directed at Hadith followers, hence the brackets in the first two posts.
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