God's Holy Name

[youssef4342]

Part 1: Allah(الله) and YHWH (יהוה)

*Allah(الله) and YHWH (יהוה) are the same god, just different names. Allah is probably made up of the arabic AL-ILAH (الإله), "The god". YHWH, as a name might mean "the one who exists", as it's similar to Hebrew Expression, which is said by God Almighty himself in the Torah, when Moses asked him about HIS name, as  "Ehyah ashr Ehyah" (I am who I am/will be) (Hebrew:אהיה אשר אהיה)(Transliterated as AhYH ASR AhYH) Notice how the ending of AhYH (אהיה) is similar to the begining of of YHWH (יהוה).
(היה) means to "be/exist, and thus it can be concluded that the name YHWH(יהוה), can mean "I am who Exist/will be"http://ha-shem.followersofyah.com/B-Earl-Allen/chapter_08.htm
Moreover, there is a shortened/poetic form of the name YHWH(יהוה), which is simply YH(יה), pronounced YAH,(Psalm 68:4) as in Hallelu-Yah (praise God).
This shorted form has been included in MANY names of the bible, and also cited in some names of the Quran. (Note Names have meanings) (Zakar-YAH زكريا) = YAH (God Remembered). Eliyas(إلياس) equivalent to Hebrew Eliyahu (אליהו) = My God is YAH).
Thus it can be said that the name is indeed correct, and not fabricated, because it has been cited in all scriptures (The NT Mentions it in the Aramaic Version)As a note, this is just one of God's Glorious Names, there are also other names in the Bible for God, as El Shaddai (God Almighty, Elyon (God Most High), etc

*Consider the fact that 1:1 states that "With/In the Name of Allah". This can mean that Allah is actually a title, like the Hebrew "Eloah אלה"(God). There is also Allahom(اللهم), which is the cognate of the Hebrew Plural-of-respect of Eloah(god), Eloahim(אֱלהִים).English: God -----------------------------------[G-O-D]
Aramaic: Alaha: אֱלָהָא ------------------------[A-L-H-A]
Hebrew: Eloah: אלה---------------------------[A-L-H]
Arabic: allah: الله --------------------------------[A-L-L-H

Sources:http://ha-shem.followersofyah.com/B-Earl-Allen/index.htm
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/YHWH.html

[AviMuslimah]

God gave His name to the Israelites, the set apart ones. He did not give it to the rest of man. Which is why the israelites are the sole ones addressed in Torah. Our book came letter and it gives us the name God wishes for us to use when addressing Him.

[Student of Allah]

God gave His name to the Israelites, the set apart ones. He did not give it to the rest of man. Which is why the israelites are the sole ones addressed in Torah. Our book came letter and it gives us the name God wishes for us to use when addressing Him.

Shalom Aleikhem,

Shalom aleikhem,

Disclaimer: I am not the greatest thinker or the best example of human intellect.

I have a problem about this issue of "THE name of THE GOD". Why would God/Allah have a name as default setting at all ? (default setting = personal )

If you consider the reason we use names is purely because of communication. We introduce a noun to help identify "the subject"/"the object". Considering God to be eternal , the whole idea of God having a name sounds irrational. Yes, later on after He created beings that are intellectually able to call upon Him using "speech" , God may have shared his attributes and said that all good names belong to him. But to say that in the beginning, God alone was naming Himself does not sound reasonable.

The whole idea about NAMING is to help identify, why would someone who exists beyond existence even bother to name Himself while His Highness existed before anything else did ?

Got any argument against what I said ? Enlighten me with your knowledge

Salam,

Although one could bring up the Vedas,puranas, old and new testaments or anything. The idea of God having a personal name is  absurd. It is just like saying that the personal name of Time is time or samay, or khon or any other word for that matter. We as humans chose to name things according to our language for identification. I reject the idea that when God alone was present without any of His creations, He actually bothered to name himself. One may call upon god with beautiful attributes(17:110), but those are attributes.

As for me, the Qur'an stands there as evidence of no personal name. Its completed with truth and is a guidance for those who believe. I do not need to import ideas from other religions or my old beliefs to justify a "personal name" for God.

Peace
--------------------------- Student of Allah

[SaifulAli]

Recently, one issue has raised considerable controversy between the readers. This is the issue of whether to use the word "Allah" or the word "God" when Muslims are speaking about God. Invariably, there seems to be someone who feels offended when the word "God" is used to speak about God.

It is surprising to notice that many Muslims do not realise that the word "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for the word "God". Many of them believe that "Allah" is the actual name of the Muslim God! They do not realise that it is wrong to "personalise" God as He is not a person. God is much greater than to be confined to a single name.

Neither do they realise that the word "Allah" does not belong exclusively to the Muslims and that it has always been used before (and after) the revelation of the Quran by the Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians when they speak about God.

Talking to English speaking people about God using the word "Allah" is very much the same as speaking to Arabic speaking people about "Allah" using the word "God". It makes better sense to use the equivalant word of each language.

If this site was in Arabic, then the word "Allah" would have been used, but as it is in English, then the word "God" is used. This does not mean that we are speaking of a different god. There is only One God.

Insisting on the use of the word "Allah" which is the Arabic word for "God" immediately creates the illusion that "Allah" is a totally different God than God of the whole world. It creates a god that belongs only to the Muslims, and this would tarnish the universality of Islam.

Moreover, those who insist that "Allah" is the personal name of God are somewhat short on Quranic knowledge. Let us read the following verse:

"Say, "Call Him Allah, or call Him the Rahman (The Almighty); whichever name you use, to Him belongs the "Asma al-Husna" (most beautiful names)." 17:110..

How clear is that?

[Student of Allah]

Recently, one issue has raised considerable controversy between the readers. This is the issue of whether to use the word "Allah" or the word "God" when Muslims are speaking about God. Invariably, there seems to be someone who feels offended when the word "God" is used to speak about God.

It is surprising to notice that many Muslims do not realise that the word "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for the word "God". Many of them believe that "Allah" is the actual name of the Muslim God! They do not realise that it is wrong to "personalise" God as He is not a person. God is much greater than to be confined to a single name.

Neither do they realise that the word "Allah" does not belong exclusively to the Muslims and that it has always been used before (and after) the revelation of the Quran by the Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians when they speak about God.

Talking to English speaking people about God using the word "Allah" is very much the same as speaking to Arabic speaking people about "Allah" using the word "God". It makes better sense to use the equivalant word of each language.

If this site was in Arabic, then the word "Allah" would have been used, but as it is in English, then the word "God" is used. This does not mean that we are speaking of a different god. There is only One God.

Insisting on the use of the word "Allah" which is the Arabic word for "God" immediately creates the illusion that "Allah" is a totally different God than God of the whole world. It creates a god that belongs only to the Muslims, and this would tarnish the universality of Islam.

Moreover, those who insist that "Allah" is the personal name of God are somewhat short on Quranic knowledge. Let us read the following verse:

"Say, "Call Him Allah, or call Him the Rahman (The Almighty); whichever name you use, to Him belongs the "Asma al-Husna" (most beautiful names)." 17:110..

How clear is that?

Shalom aleikhem,

Well.. no matter how clear those words are... one who is seeking to fullfil their own desire...gives no sh*t.

These people say that Muhammad's father was called Abdullah (servant of Allah) !!! Yet they don't get the clue that the word Allah is not a unique name given to the prophets. And the ones that understand this, they keep on making excuses for "why God should only be called Allah" !!!

Undoubtedly, a fetish for arabs/arabic/arab culture is the New Islam. By the way, this reminds me of their tactic of bombarding you with arabic terms whenever you get into any discussion with them. Too bad... google made their effort useless now.



Peace
------------- Student of Allah

[SaifulAli]

Peace be upon you,

"a fetish for arabs/arabic/arab culture is a new Islam"; yes its as if Islam is arab/arabic.. if it is that its not Islam anymore. Their religion should be called Arabist. 

I do have a few occasions where they bombared me with Arabic terms.. I don't use Google on them (wasn't inspired, as now.. haha.. to use it), but rather i bombared them in return with English and Philosopihical terms... makes them quiet a bit.

Anyway, they choose to disbelieve the fact that God had revealed himself to all men of different nations..

Anyway, God had said it in the Quran : "Of the disbelievers (Arabist among them), whether you warn them, or you warn them not, it is all one for them for they believe not" (Quran 2:6).. and.. "Of mankind are some who says, we believe in God and the last day, when they believe not" ( Quran 2:8 )

[youssef4342]

peace be with you as well...
Call him Allah or call him Alrahman, or any name which would be good...


some phrases
Inshallah = If God wills/God willing
Mashallah = what God willed! (as in "how wonderful" what God willed!)
Subhan allah = Glory be to God
Alhamdlilah = Praise/Thanks be to God
A'oozo billah = I seek refuge in God

[DaresBears]

YHWH isn't a personal name either. It means "I am that I am", a fitting description for God. God has no name.

[loxbox13]

It is interesting that when Moses first "talked" to God he said "please God tell me what is your name so that I can say to people who did I talk to", and God's reply was: "tell them that my name is YHWH which means I AM THAT I AM, or  I AM THAT I WILL BE"

So you see,  YHWH and ALLAH are not a deity, but a Reality Principle and the Harmonious Creative Truth of all there is. 

By the way, when Jews mention YHWH they say Hashem, the word which just means "name" or "title"

there is no YHWW no nothing like that
the whole bible is written way after the quran,  nobody had the right to read the bible before the 19th century,  so we don't know how was the bible before the 19th century
about hebreu, we cannot take it as a historical language, because it was invented as a language in the 17th century, ispired from greek, modern arabic, and some dialects from arab countries

the reason that made them say the god's name is I AM , is the verse :
سورة طه - - الآية 14 -
إِنَّنِي أَنَا اللَّهُ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا أَنَا فَاعْبُدْنِي وَأَقِمِ الصَّلَاةَ لِذِكْرِي
I AM Allah , thare is no ideal except ANA (I AM) ...   20:14

The proof that this was spoken in the same TONGUE as the Quran, and that moses's language was the Same as the Quranic language, is that it can be read from left to r

[GODsubmitter]

But how can you say that about the Bible?

Do you have any evidence for your claim?

Dating the Bible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_the_Bible