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progressive1993

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2012, 09:42:20 PM »
2:256
There shall be no compulsion in the religion.

Thus, Its a mutual Consent, The People, pay the Government to Defend them from Other Tyrannical Government.

People Make Govt to defend From Other Govt, Especially Evil Govt.

Only Allah is King, not Government, Government Serve God by Serving the People.

It clearly says:

8:41 You should know: Of anything you gain, that one-fifth shall go to God and the messenger: to the relatives, the orphans, the poor, and the wayfarer. You will do this if you have faith with God and in what We revealed to Our servant on the day of distinction, the day the two armies clashed. God applies due measure to/has power over all things.


Pay you Taxes Voluntarily. I don't feel volunteer to pay taxes. Maybe in 1000years later I may get the feeling to Voluntarily pay taxes.   :)


Tax done to fund the State Govt. Tariff is a tax on Import, protecting the State Local Industry.

Tax the State, Cheap imports will weaken the State. US free trade for example, Taxing the state, no tariff for imports(free trade).

Right... That is why they have an embargo against Cuba...
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Re: Taxes
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2012, 02:30:58 AM »
Salaam progressive,

I notice you are intentional perverting the guidance of the Qur'an to your own corruption, sighting Ayah 8:41 as if it was referencing taxation upon a population, is that the action of a Muslim?

There is no compulsion in the Deen of Islam, and taxation is always imposed, so you are compelled through threat or force of arms to comply, therefore taxation cannot be anything to do with the Deen of Islam, you need consider no other ayah, as all ayahs must maintain the guidance expressed by all and every other ayah.

Cuba is a system of corporation where the corporate government is all powerful, they impose regulation, taxation, legislation but surpress all forms of competition and function upon total monopoly, this creates stagnation. This form of corporation is the furthest structure of order from the Islamic model; the Islamic model has no government, no sovereigns, no ownership beyond that which you create yourself, no taxation, no legislation, no representatives, no charters, no constitutions, no statutes, no acts, no treaties and no corporations.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2012, 11:15:17 AM »
Peace Abdun Nur.

What about GOD , HE asks that we should serve only HIM.. Or are you going to tell us there is no God either.

Peace.

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2012, 08:51:11 AM »
It clearly says:

8:41 You should know: Of anything you gain, that one-fifth shall go to God and the messenger: to the relatives, the orphans, the poor, and the wayfarer. You will do this if you have faith with God and in what We revealed to Our servant on the day of distinction, the day the two armies clashed. God applies due measure to/has power over all things.
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8:41  You missed out the reference to war booty - the 1/5  only applies to war booty.

         (Khalifa)  You should know that if you gain any SPOILS IN WAR, one fifth shall go to God and his messenger
         (Hilali)      And know that whatever of WAR BOOTY you may gain, verily one fifth is assisned to Allah and the
                         Messenger

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Re: Taxes
« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2012, 04:58:47 PM »
peace & greetings to you guys as well

yes 8:41 would be talking about spoils of war
however, we note other verses to give from what God has provided us, and not to hoard or be stingy....
By doing this, there would readily be available money around...

however, Annual Taxation would not be religiously compulsory.
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Re: Taxes
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2012, 12:38:43 PM »
We should institute a zero percent tax on everything.
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