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Emil:
Salaam all!
I got a question...
Whenever the debate of hijab appears many traditional muslims (at least in my country) argue that muslims are being treated unfair because nobody is angry with the christian nuns wearing a "hijab". Why should muslim women be attacked when nobody is attacking the nuns?
Now, I find that argument a bit weak. You cannot compare the two because the muslim hijab is an obligation in traditional islam, whereas a christian nun has chosen out of her free will to devote her life to God. She is free to live that life and she is free to leave that life if she so chooses. Her "hijab" is a symbol of her devotion to God, not to protect herself from the evil of men.
Am I right? Please correct me if my thinking is up the walls.
MaverickMonotheist:
Peace Emil,
X-Christian here. Your thinking is correct. And even then, nuns are only found in Catholic and Eastern Orthodox branches of Christianity. Protestants do not have nuns, therefore no "hijab" at all. And even then, there are a lot of nuns who dress in plain clothes. My wife and I visited a convent to look at the architecture and artwork several years ago, and the nuns were wearing plain dresses and blouses and a simple hair covering - not like the "penguin suits" you typically think of when you think of what a nun wears.
Peace,
Joel
Indelwyn:
I can tell you why most christian areas have left the idea of Hijab and see it as oppression.
In the Bible the verse where Paul is telling the women to cover, is an oppressive one. That she is ONLY created for the GLORY of the man. So even ppl like my nana and mother who know this passage see my hijab as showing my Glory to my husband and NOT to ALLAH as muslims see it. I will give you the verse, in a minute. The nuns are married to Isa (pbuh) in Catholicism, you will see a ring on their ring finger as the symbol of being married to Christ. If you are married to God in the flesh, I guess you would follow Paul and cover your hair. If you don't it is best to shave it off. My stupid Born-again brother in law did that to my sister. He held her down and shaved her head. And they were worried about me marrying a muslim :confused:
1 Corinthians 3-10
3 But it is important for you to keep this fact in mind, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who takes part in prayer, or gives teaching as a prophet, with his head covered, puts shame on his head. 5 But every woman who does so with her head unveiled, puts shame on her head: for it is the same as if her hair was cut off. 6 For if a woman is not veiled, let her hair be cut off; but if it is a shame to a woman to have her hair cut off, let her be veiled. 7 For it is not right for a man to have his head covered, because he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For the man did not come from the woman, but the woman from the man. 9 And the man was not made for the woman, but the woman for the man. 10 For this reason it is right for the woman to have a sign of authority on her head,
Hope this helps, but this from my formal teachings in Catholicism
captainneckbeard:
--- Quote from: Indelwyn on September 15, 2011, 12:00:07 PM ---I can tell you why most christian areas have left the idea of Hijab and see it as oppression.
In the Bible the verse where Paul is telling the women to cover, is an oppressive one. That she is ONLY created for the GLORY of the man. So even ppl like my nana and mother who know this passage see my hijab as showing my Glory to my husband and NOT to ALLAH as muslims see it. I will give you the verse, in a minute. The nuns are married to Isa (pbuh) in Catholicism, you will see a ring on their ring finger as the symbol of being married to Christ. If you are married to God in the flesh, I guess you would follow Paul and cover your hair. If you don't it is best to shave it off. My stupid Born-again brother in law did that to my sister. He held her down and shaved her head. And they were worried about me marrying a muslim :confused:
1 Corinthians 3-10
3 But it is important for you to keep this fact in mind, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who takes part in prayer, or gives teaching as a prophet, with his head covered, puts shame on his head. 5 But every woman who does so with her head unveiled, puts shame on her head: for it is the same as if her hair was cut off. 6 For if a woman is not veiled, let her hair be cut off; but if it is a shame to a woman to have her hair cut off, let her be veiled. 7 For it is not right for a man to have his head covered, because he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For the man did not come from the woman, but the woman from the man. 9 And the man was not made for the woman, but the woman for the man. 10 For this reason it is right for the woman to have a sign of authority on her head,
Hope this helps, but this from my formal teachings in Catholicism
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My mother is a very serious born-again non-denominational christian, and when I have asked her about this verse, it is one of the few that she adamantly claims was just paul's opinion, and isn't law.
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