Reasons why there can't be two Gods

[Jafar]

Peace Lena, all

Let's suppose that there are many gods; each of these gods has his own creation.

There are 2 scenarios:

1- There is enough space to contain all these gods and their creations, so they don't have to interact or enter in competition, so each god can express his complete authority over his own creation.
But then we have to consider that the creator of this space (where these gods evolve) is like a supergod compared to these gods, he is much more powerful that he is able to create a space to contain all these gods/creations.
These gods then cannot be considered as  gods anymore, because they don't have full control, and are only allowed to exist by the power the real god the creator of all.

2- These gods co-exist and share the same space for their creations; none of them can have full control all the time without it creating chaos as each one would want to be all powerfull all the time, or in the case of co-management it will nullify/suspend their super attributes at least for sometime; they are not gods anymore.
furthermore, the creation of the space in which these gods evolve bring us again to the implication of the existence of a god much more powerful who can create a space to contain all these gods and their powers.

We come always to the conclusion that there must be only one supreme creator.

 

Need to trace back on "Why" people created this (imagery) gods / deities in the first place...
Thus it brings out "Polytheism" and then came "Monotheism" as a reaction...

It goes back to the conflict among the 'priestly class'..

To seek peace, wealth and power division among themselves they created different gods/deities as thus there will be enough gods/deities to specialize themselves with...
One group become the priest of "Penis god" (for example) the other "Vagina god", the other "Sky god" and then "Sun god" etc.. etc.. etc..

Where each priestly group have their own authority over rites, temple design (including representation of deity/deities) and of course the most important thing is the 'minimum amount of donation' to enter the temple and/or receive the priest's.... erggh I mean.... the god's blessing (which 'channeled' through the priest).

The pattern is clearly evident within today Hinduism..
So it seems; due to the baby boomers period (now over 1Billion population in India alone) there's now an oversupply of 'priest'.. especially the priest who specialize in a deity named Krishn..

Thus to create "Peace and Authority Division" among themselves they start to re-specialize by the color of Krishn .

One become the priest of Blue Krishn, the other Black Krishn, Red Krishn.. so on and so forth..
The argument goes; since Krishn is a god he can color himself with any color that he choose.
Each "Color" of Krishn has it's own set of priest, temple (of course this is the most important thing) and rites (the 2nd most important thing).. and minimum donation (The upper most important thing)

Perhaps 1000 years from now, they will start running out of Color and they will start re-specializing in Krishn's pose!
Blue Krishn Running, Red Krishn Sitting, Orange Krishn playing Football etc...

And thus Polytheism was born.. and new deities / god shall continue to be born to cater the needs of growing number of priests...

Salam / Peace

[good logic]

Peace everyone.

There can only be / exist/ever has been only one GOD.

Let me give this example.   The human starts from 1 sperm and one egg, then one cell.

This cell  multiplies and forms the parts and organs each with its own function yet all from a single cell.

The universe also originated from singularity to give billions of galaxies.

Hence all the creations originate from ONE singularity. The creator . the Origin.

Therefore there can only exist one GOD.

Peace.

[Lena]

Need to trace back on "Why" people created this (imagery) gods / deities in the first place...


It goes back to the conflict among the 'priestly class'..

To seek peace, wealth and power division among themselves they created different gods/deities as thus there will be enough gods/deities to specialize themselves with...
One group become the priest of "Penis god" (for example) the other "Vagina god", the other "Sky god" and then "Sun god" etc.. etc.. etc..

Where each priestly group have their own authority over rites, temple design (including representation of deity/deities) and of course the most important thing is the 'minimum amount of donation' to enter the temple and/or receive the priest's.... erggh I mean.... the god's blessing (which 'channeled' through the priest).

The pattern is clearly evident within today Hinduism..
So it seems; due to the baby boomers period (now over 1Billion population in India alone) there's now an oversupply of 'priest'.. especially the priest who specialize in a deity named Krishn..

Thus to create "Peace and Authority Division" among themselves they start to re-specialize by the color of Krishn .

One become the priest of Blue Krishn, the other Black Krishn, Red Krishn.. so on and so forth..
The argument goes; since Krishn is a god he can color himself with any color that he choose.
Each "Color" of Krishn has it's own set of priest, temple (of course this is the most important thing) and rites (the 2nd most important thing).. and minimum donation (The upper most important thing)

Perhaps 1000 years from now, they will start running out of Color and they will start re-specializing in Krishn's pose!
Blue Krishn Running, Red Krishn Sitting, Orange Krishn playing Football etc...

And thus Polytheism was born.. and new deities / god shall continue to be born to cater the needs of growing number of priests...

Salam / Peace[

          

But how about revolving leadership - why does it have to be all about competition for power - why can't it be about sharing power and co-operation? Many hands make light work, two heads are better than one (for creativity and problem solving). And there doesn't always have to be a chief!   Power and decision making can be in the hands of tribal councils   
This helps to ensure checks and balances on power rather than a dictatorship style of decision making. Perhaps having many gods is similar to "there are many ways to skin a cat or there are many roads to the top of the mountain (and many mountain tops).

[Lena]

Peace everyone.

There can only be / exist/ever has been only one GOD.

Let me give this example.   The human starts from 1 sperm and one egg, then one cell.

This cell  multiplies and forms the parts and organs each with its own function yet all from a single cell.

The universe also originated from singularity to give billions of galaxies.

Hence all the creations originate from ONE singularity. The creator . the Origin.

Therefore there can only exist one GOD.

Peace.

   good logic!!!      But do we know for sure that the universe originated from singularity or is that based on our FAITH in the ONE GOD

[Lena]

Peace Someone


Let's suppose that there are many gods; each of these gods has his own creation.

There are 2 scenarios:

1- There is enough space to contain all these gods and their creations, so they don't have to interact or enter in competition, so each god can express his complete authority over his own creation.
But then we have to consider that the creator of this space (where these gods evolve) is like a supergod compared to these gods, he is much more powerful that he is able to create a space to contain all these gods/creations.
These gods then cannot be considered as  gods anymore, because they don't have full control, and are only allowed to exist by the power the real god the creator of all.

I don't think any human can prove how creation, the galaxies etc began - we either have faith that One God created these or we believe many gods were involved or we can suggest different theories or simply accept that we don't at this stage have the evidence and knowledge to say how it initially came about.  And group dynamics doesn't necessarily have to involve competition.

2- These gods co-exist and share the same space for their creations; none of them can have full control all the time without it creating chaos as each one would want to be all powerfull all the time, or in the case of co-management it will nullify/suspend their super attributes at least for sometime; they are not gods anymore.
furthermore, the creation of the space in which these gods evolve bring us again to the implication of the existence of a god much more powerful who can create a space to contain all these gods and their powers.

We come always to the conclusion that there must be only one supreme creator. 
   
Couldn't the gods can work together as a team and help each other - like in a relay race - a leader carries the batten for a certain portion of the race then hands it to the next leader.  Or a different model - no leaders just a group of gods like a tribal council running everything each using their particular powers and skills to accomplish the overall creation project - they don't have to suspend any of their attributes because they work as a strengths based team. Why do you think there has to be chaos or competition in such models of creation? 
 

[Jafar]

But how about revolving leadership - why does it have to be all about competition for power - why can't it be about sharing power and co-operation? Many hands make light work, two heads are better than one (for creativity and problem solving). And there doesn't always have to be a chief!   Power and decision making can be in the hands of tribal councils   
This helps to ensure checks and balances on power rather than a dictatorship style of decision making. Perhaps having many gods is similar to "there are many ways to skin a cat or there are many roads to the top of the mountain (and many mountain tops).

Yes why not? The more the merrier isn't it?
If one god said no to our wishes, "I'm sorry Jafar, your donation is not enough, your prayer is rejected".. we can always lobbied the many other gods... And... who knows there's a god somewhere in dire need of donation and willing to grant my prayer with lower pay...

Or.... even better.... I can hold a (reverse) auction... I invite those gods to an auction... and tell them my wishes... and let them bid a specific amount to grant my wishes... And I will convert to the religion of that specific god who say yes to my wishes (with money back guarantee of  course) and bid with the lowest donation...

Hell yeah... that's even better!!

But unfortunately.. it doesn't work like that.... those gods are merely an 'imagery' of the priest... to get money from clueless (and dumb) folks..

Salam / Peace

[Student of Allah]

Shalom Aleikhem,

Yes why not? The more the merrier isn't it?
If one god said no to our wishes, "I'm sorry Jafar, your donation is not enough, your prayer is rejected".. we can always lobbied the many other gods... And... who knows there's a god somewhere in dire need of donation and willing to grant my prayer with lower pay...

Or.... even better.... I can hold a (reverse) auction... I invite those gods to an auction... and tell them my wishes... and let them bid a specific amount to grant my wishes... And I will convert to the religion of that specific god who say yes to my wishes (with money back guarantee of  course) and bid with the lowest donation...

Hell yeah... that's even better!!

But unfortunately.. it doesn't work like that.... those gods are merely an 'imagery' of the priest... to get money from clueless (and dumb) folks..

Salam / Peace

 

very creative, liked it...lmao


Peace
---------------- Student of Allah