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amuslim:
Peace,

I have just saw some of his debates on youtube and was wondering what you guys thought of his debates?  Seems like all the "muslims" that I've seen him debate, he has utterly destroyed them.  Except in the case where one pointed out some pornography in the bible, he really didn't know how to answer that one.

Peace

raginggaijin:

--- Quote from: amuslim on July 09, 2011, 08:12:04 AM ---Peace,

I have just saw some of his debates on youtube and was wondering what you guys thought of his debates?  Seems like all the "muslims" that I've seen him debate, he has utterly destroyed them.  Except in the case where one pointed out some pornography in the bible, he really didn't know how to answer that one.

Peace

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His debates are one-sided as he controls the room; when you start to gain ground he cuts you off and make demands.

When I first reverted to Al-Islam from Christianity years ago, I debated him. I was testing my new-found beliefs (at the time I still believe Paul was a Prophet  :rotfl:), and ignorant of how he runs his room I accepted an invite. It was a learning experience, one of humility for certain, but the points that the God of the previous Books and the Quran are the same Creator and there is no God but our Creator were made. It also taught me to be prepared before jumping into any religious debate. This interaction set the foundation for the amount of proof I bring to bear today.

I would love to debate him again in a room that was not controlled by him but by a neutral third-party, or in a public venue. However, he will not enter into a debate if he does not control these venues.

Here's my debate with him. You will see right off the bat he cuts me off, isn't listening, and gets the translation wrong.

Christian Prince Educates Muslim raginggaijin 1-6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_p7IyLtaRk

I forgive him for how he treated me. His actions are made fair-seeming to him, and shows the true nature of his heart.
When he stands before Allah, he will have many people who followed him that will be very unhappy. He's made his choice. Christian Prince cannot say he was not warned.

"And the unbelievers shall say, 'Our Lord, show us those that led us astray, both jinn and men, and we shall set them underneath our feet, that they may be among the lower ones." Surah 41:29

Peace.

amuslim:
Peace Raging,

He seems to be an expert at "winning" debates.  It seems like the entire debate was focused on just that ayat?  Where did you go?  Did you just leave?

I find his debate with Nadir Ahmed hilarious.  They both seem to be of the same extract.

Peace

raginggaijin:
Peace and blessings be upon you and yours,


--- Quote from: amuslim on July 11, 2011, 10:27:27 AM ---Peace Raging,
He seems to be an expert at "winning" debates.  It seems like the entire debate was focused on just that ayat?  Where did you go?  Did you just leave?
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Computer crashed multiple times during the discussion. After I tried to get back the last time I said 'Forget it'. They were given the message. That is all I am required to do.

"Behold, the sinners were laughing at the believers," Surah 83:29

In the End, he will know the Truth. Who then will be the loser?

"So today the believers are laughing at the unbelievers," Surah 83:34


--- Quote from: amuslim on July 11, 2011, 10:27:27 AM ---I find his debate with Nadir Ahmed hilarious.  They both seem to be of the same extract.

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Be careful of associating with them.

"He has sent down upon you in the Book: 'When you hear God's signs being disbelieved and made mock of, do not sit with them until they plunge into some other talk, or else you will surely be like to them.' God will gather the hypocrites and the unbelievers all in Gehenna." Surah 4:140

I personally don't want to return to disbelief, and I don't take the deen as a joke or a game to play - where it is my goal to 'beat' my opponents. So I don't continue to associate with people like him. Once they are given the reminder and warning, I leave them alone. It is between them and Allah.

"When they hear idle talk, they turn away from it and say, 'We have our deeds, and you your deeds. Peace be upon you, we desire not the ignorant.'" Surah 28:55
"The servants of the All-merciful are those who walk in the earth modestly and who, when the ignorant address them, say, 'Peace';" Surah 25:63

May Allah guide us to a right better than this.

Peace and blessings.

Student of Allah:
Salam Raggin-Taggin,

Although I have my own understanding of what CP asked you in the first video, can you attempt at answering the question here ? The question was regarding Allah sealing the hearts of those who disbelieve.



PEACE

---------------------- Student of Allah

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