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TruthBehindIt

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Re: Obey Da Messenger
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2011, 01:17:52 PM »


^^^


The Mortal-rubb-Sheikh-----who will die one day to become shit of insects in the earth.

What a crappie Ghatto lief.


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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2011, 02:09:27 PM »
^^^


The Mortal-rubb-Sheikh-----who will die one day to become shit of insects in the earth.

What a crappie Ghatto lief.



U mad bro?
PLEASE NOTE: For those who don't know, I do not smoke Hashish...I am simply fascinated by the legends of the Ismailis. This important service announcement dedicated to the corporal faggot Paradox Uncreated.

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Old Man of the Mountain" (Sabbah) would drug his young followers with hashish, lead them to a "paradise", and then claim that only he had the means to allow for their return. Perceiving that Sabbah was either a prophet or some kind of magic man, his disciples, believing that only he could return them to "paradise", were fully committed to his cause and willing to carry out his every request. With his new weapons, Sabbah began to order multiple assassinations.

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Re: Obey Da Messenger
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2011, 02:13:51 PM »
U mad bro?

Salam!

No one is mad here!


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The Mortal-rubb-Sheikh-----who will die one day to become shit of insects in the earth.


Prove me wrong, if I am.

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Re: Obey Da Messenger
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2011, 02:14:44 PM »
A nice example I like to give for this question, that one can actually verify in real life, is:

Since Al Quran was revealed in an environment in which followers of other faiths were present (e.g. Jews/Christians/other) simply saying "obey God" does not differentiate anything if an audience member already believes in God and is following their own holy book etc.
So I advise going to a group of Jews/Christians and tell them "obey God!" and you will quickly realise why there is a need for "...and the messenger (i.e. the one with the message)".


Enjoy dat one yo.
Wouldn't there be confusion over messenger as well then? End of the day, it's all calf (2:67).
God has a plan, Gaius. He has a plan for everything and everyone.

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Re: Obey Da Messenger
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2011, 02:43:46 PM »
Salam!

No one is mad here!


Prove me wrong, if I am.

I neva sad u waz wrong
PLEASE NOTE: For those who don't know, I do not smoke Hashish...I am simply fascinated by the legends of the Ismailis. This important service announcement dedicated to the corporal faggot Paradox Uncreated.

The Assassins
Old Man of the Mountain" (Sabbah) would drug his young followers with hashish, lead them to a "paradise", and then claim that only he had the means to allow for their return. Perceiving that Sabbah was either a prophet or some kind of magic man, his disciples, believing that only he could return them to "paradise", were fully committed to his cause and willing to carry out his every request. With his new weapons, Sabbah began to order multiple assassinations.

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« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2011, 03:10:31 PM »
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The Assassins
Old Man of the Mountain" (Sabbah) would drug his young followers with hashish, lead them to a "paradise", and then claim that only he had the means to allow for their return. Perceiving that Sabbah was either a prophet or some kind of magic man, his disciples, believing that only he could return them to "paradise", were fully committed to his cause and willing to carry out his every request. With his new weapons, Sabbah began to order multiple assassinations.

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Re: Obey Da Messenger
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2011, 03:36:56 PM »
dis is my only home

PLEASE NOTE: For those who don't know, I do not smoke Hashish...I am simply fascinated by the legends of the Ismailis. This important service announcement dedicated to the corporal faggot Paradox Uncreated.

The Assassins
Old Man of the Mountain" (Sabbah) would drug his young followers with hashish, lead them to a "paradise", and then claim that only he had the means to allow for their return. Perceiving that Sabbah was either a prophet or some kind of magic man, his disciples, believing that only he could return them to "paradise", were fully committed to his cause and willing to carry out his every request. With his new weapons, Sabbah began to order multiple assassinations.

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Re: Obey Da Messenger
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2011, 08:49:48 PM »
If you didn't get the message by now I was joking.
PLEASE NOTE: For those who don't know, I do not smoke Hashish...I am simply fascinated by the legends of the Ismailis. This important service announcement dedicated to the corporal faggot Paradox Uncreated.

The Assassins
Old Man of the Mountain" (Sabbah) would drug his young followers with hashish, lead them to a "paradise", and then claim that only he had the means to allow for their return. Perceiving that Sabbah was either a prophet or some kind of magic man, his disciples, believing that only he could return them to "paradise", were fully committed to his cause and willing to carry out his every request. With his new weapons, Sabbah began to order multiple assassinations.

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Re: Obey Da Messenger
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2011, 09:07:22 PM »
If you didn't get the message by now I was joking.

Why spoil it? Twas funnier before...

I mean 'Look, an internet-savvy forum-trolling bum!'

other bums: 'O RLY?'


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Re: Obey Da Messenger
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2011, 10:09:00 PM »
Since Al Quran was revealed in an environment in which followers of other faiths were present (e.g. Jews/Christians/other) simply saying "obey God" does not differentiate anything if an audience member already believes in God and is following their own holy book etc.

"Other faith"??? Or is it actually 'the same faith' after all??

Mind you when Muhammad said those words who are now being written in a book called Quran, the Quran printed edition version is not yet exist..

I always 'suspected' that the message in the Quran was MAINLY directed towards the Jews and Christians audience in the first place.
Given:
1. Nearly 60-70% of its content told stories regarding 'heroes' of the Jews, David, Solomon, Moses etc..
2. It again clarify that Jesus and John was indeed God's prophet and messenger.
3. Some of the message can be 'clearly understood' within 'hebrew/israelite' cultural context.
For example: Those who violated the Sabbath are turned to apes and despised...
Many people interpret the story as if God did literally turned those Sabbath violator people into Apes.
Within hebrew/israelite context; this is an allegorical stories, Apes/Monkey in hebrew culture symbolize "Greed" just like Donkey symbolize "Firmness".
Those who violates the sabbath are cursed to be "Greedy" people / never satisfied or be happy on what they have and not literally turned to monkeys..

Imagine reciting the stories on Moses, David or Solomon to the Chinese during that period..
They will be left dumb and confounded... Who The Heck is Moses????? And why should I care about him?????
For the chinese; perhaps the messenger will told stories on Lao Tze or other popular chinese heroes...

Salam / Peace
The Arabs (al-arabu) are the worst in rejection and hypocrisy, and more likely not to know the limits of what God has sent upon His messenger
9:97

And yes it's written as Al-Arabu and not Al-Badawi or Badawiyun..
*For those who had a hard time accepting this fact..