Author Topic: Forget pantheism, panentheism, all isms; The quran reveals the glorious truth  (Read 397 times)

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Further to the previous debate, here is some more evidence:

ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْحَقُّ وَأَنَّ مَا يَدْعُونَ مِنْ دُونِهِ هُوَ الْبَاطِلُ وَأَنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْكَبِيرُ {62}
[Shakir 22:62] That is because Allah is the truth, and that what they call upon besides Him-- that is the falsehood, and because Allah is the High, the Great.

Consider further:

اللَّهُ نُورُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ ۚ مَثَلُ نُورِهِ كَمِشْكَاةٍ فِيهَا مِصْبَاحٌ ۖ الْمِصْبَاحُ فِي زُجَاجَةٍ ۖ الزُّجَاجَةُ كَأَنَّهَا كَوْكَبٌ دُرِّيٌّ يُوقَدُ مِنْ شَجَرَةٍ مُبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونَةٍ لَا شَرْقِيَّةٍ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِيءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌ ۚ نُورٌ عَلَىٰ نُورٍ ۗ يَهْدِي اللَّهُ لِنُورِهِ مَنْ يَشَاءُ ۚ وَيَضْرِبُ اللَّهُ الْأَمْثَالَ لِلنَّاسِ ۗ وَاللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ {35}
[Shakir 24:35] Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things.


This verse makes sense exactly if we cross reference. Check the following transcription:

24:35 - The truth is the energy/light of the heavens and earth...
22:62 - Energy is the truth and that which they call upon besides it is non-existent and because truth is supreme in existence

We know now that the universe has a basis in information, and information is truth/energy/light/consciousness.


وَهُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ بِالْحَقِّ ۖ وَيَوْمَ يَقُولُ كُنْ فَيَكُونُ ۚ قَوْلُهُ الْحَقُّ ۚ وَلَهُ الْمُلْكُ يَوْمَ يُنْفَخُ فِي الصُّورِ ۚ عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ ۚ وَهُوَ الْحَكِيمُ الْخَبِيرُ {73}
[Shakir 6:73] And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth with truth, and on the day He says: Be, it is. His word is the truth, and His is the kingdom on the day when the trumpet shall be blown; the Knower of the unseen and the seen; and He is the Wise, the Aware.

When the truth decides to assign something as truth (i.e. Be) then it is also the truth. The truth is conscious, the truth is aware, the truth is supreme creator of the heavens and earth.


http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/itbwi/information-fundamental-entity

Thought = Truth = Matter = Energy = Spirit = Light = Consciousness = Knowledge

Throughout history man has made a distinction between all of these concepts then created a series of bizarre conundrums: "What is the relationship between spirit and matter", "Is experience real?", "Does the universe possess consciousness"

Now surely the truth of 22:62 is self-evident here. How can you be reduced to such an abject state that you are questioning if the universe which itself created consciousness, possesses it? You can only be in such a state if you are chasing non-existence. All of these conundrums fall by the wayside when we recognise that REALITY is ONE reality and all things occur IN reality. In truth, all of these questions are thinly veiled versions of the same question: "Does God exist?"


وَكَذَٰلِكَ جَعَلْنَا لِكُلِّ نَبِيٍّ عَدُوًّا شَيَاطِينَ الْإِنْسِ وَالْجِنِّ يُوحِي بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَىٰ بَعْضٍ زُخْرُفَ الْقَوْلِ غُرُورًا ۚ وَلَوْ شَاءَ رَبُّكَ مَا فَعَلُوهُ ۖ فَذَرْهُمْ وَمَا يَفْتَرُونَ {112}
[Shakir 6:112] And thus did We make for every prophet an enemy, the Shaitans from among men and jinn, some of them suggesting to others varnished falsehood to deceive (them), and had your Lord pleased they would not have done it, therefore leave them and that which they forge.
وَلِتَصْغَىٰ إِلَيْهِ أَفْئِدَةُ الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْآخِرَةِ وَلِيَرْضَوْهُ وَلِيَقْتَرِفُوا مَا هُمْ مُقْتَرِفُونَ {113}
[Shakir 6:113] And that the hearts of those who do not believe in the hereafter may incline to it and that they may be well pleased with it and that they may earn what they are going to earn (of evil).


Or to put it another way, you are not merely a human experiencing reality but Reality experiencing everything, which in your particular position in spacetime is a human being. Such is the illusion, it is a test from ALLH: who will wake up?

Peace
As you fall asleep and wake up to a new day
So shall you enter your grave and arise to the last


"Now no person knows what delights of the eye are kept hidden for them - as a reward for their deeds" (32:17)

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We even have a visual representation of 24:35:

As you fall asleep and wake up to a new day
So shall you enter your grave and arise to the last


"Now no person knows what delights of the eye are kept hidden for them - as a reward for their deeds" (32:17)

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We even have a visual representation of 24:35:



That only shows the creation of one universe.. while there could exist billions of other universes...
The Arabs (al-arabu) are the worst in rejection and hypocrisy, and more likely not to know the limits of what God has sent upon His messenger
9:97

And yes it's written as Al-Arabu and not Al-Badawi or Badawiyun..
*For those who had a hard time accepting this fact..

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All is contained as ALLH.

It depends what you refer to as "universe".

That which exists on the grandest scale, without boundary, that is eternal and has no beginning or end. That is the "space" in which all "universes" exist.

Contemplate carefully, the idea of "parallel universes" are delusions. We spend so much time trying to think about things beyond life and our universe we forget to be appreciative of what is already HERE! No point trying to go to the moon when you can't walk Earth in peace, no point contemplating other universes if you don't even grasp this one itself!
As you fall asleep and wake up to a new day
So shall you enter your grave and arise to the last


"Now no person knows what delights of the eye are kept hidden for them - as a reward for their deeds" (32:17)