Author Topic: Are you an agnostic about the Quran or certain? If certain then why?  (Read 2559 times)

Pel

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I find it hard to tell people who think criticaly that I am a believer who knows, because after all how can I know 100%.

I supose I can say I am guessing that there is God and that the good interpretation of the Quran is inspired by him.

My question is how many of you claim to know? And how do you know by stiking to the proof?

Personaly, at this stage I can say that I am close to it but not there yet.

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Wakas

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Re: Are you an agnostic about the Quran or certain? If certain then why?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 01:01:36 PM »
You might find this interesting:
http://www.quran434.com/Does-God-Exist.pdf

My first article.
All information in my posts is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should seek knowledge and verify: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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Pel

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Re: Are you an agnostic about the Quran or certain? If certain then why?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2010, 10:44:16 PM »
thanks Wakas, good article.

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Re: Are you an agnostic about the Quran or certain? If certain then why?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2010, 08:21:22 AM »
You might find this interesting:
http://www.quran434.com/Does-God-Exist.pdf

My first article.

Peace

But you can still believe in God without doubt but be agnostic about the Quran.

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Re: Are you an agnostic about the Quran or certain? If certain then why?
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2011, 12:59:59 PM »
Hello Pel,

I think one of the most liberating things I did in my life and personal growth was to recognise my agnosticism - I think it made me a much more humble and fairer person.

But to be honest I always respected agnostics.

Oops - that was another opinion! LOL

Pel

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Re: Are you an agnostic about the Quran or certain? If certain then why?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 04:13:45 AM »
Thanks Arkan. I used to be involved in Deism and when I said that I believe in some sort of Satan like creatures they told me to go for a run and similar stuff.

I am very open minded, so I am prone to changing my mind and that is because I try to understand different perspectives. I am not agnostic about the existence of God and Satan.

I am onlly slightly(now) agnostic about wich system is true. Is it hadith or not, is it maybe some form of Christianity? Is it Judeism? Is it my personal belief?

Right now I believe in the Quran but I am still researching what ever I come across so that in the end when I say I am a muslim it will not be ONLY because my father is one but because I SINCIERLY believe in the Quran to be inspired by true God.

I am also aware that I am not supose to go back and forth in belief and that I have to repent that ASAP because I am unforunately guilty of that sin. I am actualy a litle bit woried because of it!


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Re: Are you an agnostic about the Quran or certain? If certain then why?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 06:52:12 AM »
Hello Pel,

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I am very open minded, so I am prone to changing my mind and that is because I try to understand different perspectives.

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I am onlly slightly(now) agnostic about wich system is true. Is it hadith or not, is it maybe some form of Christianity? Is it Judeism? Is it my personal belief?

If this is true,

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Right now I believe in the Quran but I am still researching what ever I come across so that in the end when I say I am a muslim it will not be ONLY because my father is one but because I SINCIERLY believe in the Quran to be inspired by true God.

It looks like you've already made up your mind because you already have your final destination in view :tempt:

Pel

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Re: Are you an agnostic about the Quran or certain? If certain then why?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2011, 08:27:20 AM »
Yes, it looks like I am coming close to making up my mind, but thats after years of geting involved in different beliefs. There were times when I was into Budhism, Deism, I was looking into Christianity. There were times when I didn't know what religion I believe in. This went for about 7 years and its only now that I am coming to a closure and it happens to be Islam.

The fact that my ancesters decided Islam is right would have played initialy in how I identify my self but later I went on a journey like I said. There are reasons I believe in God and in the existence of Satan, ofcourse these ideas come from the books originaly but also through my personal experiences i have come to see confirmation of the Quran and at times my faith in any particular book gets shaken and thats what I was writing about.

Yet, I am still keeping contact with others and listening to their theories. After 7 years I should be coming to a closure about what I believe to be true.

Arkan, keep searching. I wouldn't be satisfied with agnosticism. Then again I wouldn't recomend other than theistic religions, but thats me.

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Re: Are you an agnostic about the Quran or certain? If certain then why?
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 11:29:32 AM »
Peace Pel, I humbly ask you to please read through some of your own statements carefully:

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I haven't been very active on this forum lately because of doubts I am having about the Qur'an or actualy about any revealed religion.

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At the begining I will mention that I am undecided on wich religion is true. I am sorry to say this but I have to be honest with my self and others. I supose you wouldn't want me any other way.

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I find it hard to tell people who think criticaly that I am a believer who knows, because after all how can I know 100%.

Pel, if I'm going to be honest with you, it seems that the following quote:

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After 7 years I should be coming to a closure about what I believe to be true.

Is betraying your true feelings and beliefs.

I don't know you or what is going on inside you, all I know is from the information you have given me - so could you perhaps be misleading yourself to conclude that you are nearly there?

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Arkan, keep searching. I wouldn't be satisfied with agnosticism.

My admission of agnosticism was the most humble and enlightening thing I have ever done in my life - it has made me a very satisfied person - much more satisfied than when I was years ago very much in your situation. I feel it has truly liberated me and allowed me to see things much more clearly than before. How can one possibly seek knowledge and wisdom when they have already concluded 'I KNOW'? All I'm saying is take your time and be careful - because doing otherwise may only lead to you decieving yourself.

Please read carefully and listen to my reasoning, not my opinions or anyone elses for that matter.

If you would like me to clarify on anything further I would be most happy to do that for you.

I truly hope that you find peace and truth Pel.

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Arkan

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Re: Are you an agnostic about the Quran or certain? If certain then why?
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2011, 02:18:09 PM »


Yet, I am still keeping contact with others and listening to their theories. After 7 years I should be coming to a closure about what I believe to be true.


Why do you feel this need to have total closure?  It's just as much about the journey as it is the destination.  You're not choosing an employer here.  You're not buying a house.  It's not some hurdle you have to overcome, and move on from.  There is value in the process.  Resist the temptation to have it all figured out.

Keep questioning and reflecting.  Pray and meditate.  Get the answers yourself.  Forget everyone else.