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The Night of Decree is the 27th day of the 9th moon: Incontrovertible proof

Started by 6619, September 02, 2010, 06:27:36 PM

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WayFinder

Quote from: guest on September 30, 2010, 11:09:04 AM
Peace

How do you determine the full moon? What is the criterion?

How do you know that full moon you are looking at is a FULL MOON not a day away from the actual full moon? 

Seems we have someone who never took the time to observe the moon in his entire life... poor lad.  Maybe he should try to measure the roundness of the moon with a coin... or an egg ... or an orange... :rotfl:
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ayman

Peace brother WayFinder,

Quote from: WayFinder on September 30, 2010, 11:29:19 AMSeems we have someone who never took the time to observe the moon in his entire life... poor lad.  Maybe he should try to measure the roundness of the moon with a coin... or an egg ... or an orange... :rotfl:

We don't even need a coin, an egg or an orange :). The god tells us exactly and very simply how to determine the full moon:

84:16. So I do swear by the redness of dusk.



84:17. And the night and what it enshrouds.

84:18. And the moon when it becomes symmetric/full.



After sunset when the sky is glowing red,
the night enshrouds the sky from the opposite direction
where the full symmetric moon appears.

Guest ignores that the full-moon and the sun are on opposite sides of the earth. So the actual full-moon will appear shortly after sunset in 180 degrees opposite direction from where the darkness enshrouds the sky. This is why there has NEVER been any dispute amongst ANY people on the full-moon while EVERY SINGLE YEAR there are MANY disputes even in the same region and between neighbors about the waxing crescent moon.

Peace,

Ayman
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Ayisha

Now that sort of sunset we get on the Nile in winter only, not in summer. I have some amazing pics of the reds and oranges from December sunsets
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Guide us to the straight path,
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ayman

Peace Ayisha,

Quote from: Ayisha on September 30, 2010, 12:30:22 PMNow that sort of sunset we get on the Nile in winter only, not in summer. I have some amazing pics of the reds and oranges from December sunsets

It is because in Egypt there are usually no clouds in the summer to further defract the light. On the East Coast of the US we get those kind of sunsets all the time  :sun:. I am not sure where this pic was taken though. It is just a picture of dusk I found on line.

In the desert the sunsets look very red and dramatic because of the dusty atmosphere increasing the defraction of light.

Peace,

Ayman
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Ayisha

Quote from: ayman on September 30, 2010, 12:34:25 PM
Peace Ayisha,

It is because in Egypt there are usually no clouds in the summer to further defract the light.

Peace,

Ayman
thats true, endless blue skies and blazing sun and not a cloud or a breeze  ;D Like hell with sky  :'(
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Praise be to God, Lord of the Universe,
The Compassionate, The Merciful,
Sovereign of the Day of Judgement!
You alone we worship, and to You alone we turn for help.
Guide us to the straight path,
The path of those You have favoured,
Not of those who have incurred Your wrath,
Nor of those who have gone astray.

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Peace Ayman

I witnessed the full moon which you are describing in London this year. However, did not really know the significance of what I was seeing until I read your notes. It even made me pull over to the side, get out of my car and watch it in amazment, the redness of the moon and also how big it appeared was breath taking. I just wished I had a camera to capture that moment and share it.

Peace
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Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

guest

Quote from: WayFinder on September 30, 2010, 11:29:19 AM
Seems we have someone who never took the time to observe the moon in his entire life... poor lad.  Maybe he should try to measure the roundness of the moon with a coin... or an egg ... or an orange... :rotfl:


Hey, I thought you were hiding behind Ayisha?s skirt. You had to come out to make fun of yourself again. Didn?t I tell you that you don?t know the implication of your own writing? Like Ayisha you respond without even understanding the question.

For your information the Full Moon, the moon day before the full moon, and the moon day after the full moon, looks the same with naked eyes. You need telescope or binocular to see the difference in the moon disk. I suppose the average Arabs during the time of Prophet Muhammad was walking with a telescope to find the easy marker. If you remove the calculated full moon reference from you head you will pick the day before or the day after moon as the full moon.

Unlike you, I have already validated the theory with an experiment. I asked people who knew nothing about the experiment, to identify the moon that appeared one day before the full moon; they said it was a full moon. An error! I did the same with the moon that appeared day after the full moon. They said it was a full moon. Another error. And you call this a clear cut marker. Lies after lies whose root can be traced back to root meaning dictionary.

guest

Quote from: Ayisha on September 29, 2010, 04:05:37 PM
The lunar cycle, the solar cycle and the seasons are from Allah, not a phenomenon. They are prefectly in sync with each other.

Peace  Ayisha,

I hate to tell you that you don?t know the meaning of synch in this situation. I will leave it at that.

Quote from: Ayisha on September 29, 2010, 04:05:37 PM
the solar calendar is in sync with the seasons and adding  leap day every 4 years brings it in sync. This has everything to do with Allah and it is in Quran that you were given sun and moon to measure time and count the years and that you were given stars to guide you.

Your own statement proves that the solar calendar is not in synch with the seasons. If it is in perfect sync then you wouldn?t be adding anything to it! The fact that you are adding something tells me that it is out of sync without the additional thing.

Quote from: Ayisha on September 29, 2010, 04:05:37 PM
As I have said above the calendar used was off by 30 days and thats why there was a month added every 3 years because the Lunar cycle is out of sync with the solar one.

Previously you said ?The lunar cycle, the solar cycle and the seasons are from Allah, not a phenomenon. They are prefectly in sync with each other. ?

Now you are saying ??.the Lunar cycle is out of sync with the solar one?. Can you understand these are contradictory statements? You should determine your limit and stay within it!

WayFinder

Quote from: guest on September 30, 2010, 02:19:39 PM
Hey, I thought you were hiding behind Ayisha’s skirt.

:police:

QuoteYou had to come out to make fun of yourself again. Didn’t I tell you that you don’t know the implication of your own writing? Like Ayisha you respond without even understanding the question.

No... we know nothing here... you are the only person who knows everything... guess what... I dont know what i am writing right now!

QuoteFor your information the Full Moon, the moon day before the full moon, and the moon day after the full moon, looks the same with naked eyes. You need telescope or binocular to see the difference in the moon disk. I suppose the average Arabs during the time of Prophet Muhammad was walking with a telescope to find the easy marker. If you remove the calculated full moon reference from you head you will pick the day before or the day after moon as the full moon.

Hmmm... the arabs failed to do this.. by civilizations which predates the arabs by long periods were able to do this.... and moreover, they did it accurately... Such as the mayan calendar.. which remains accurate upto this date.. each eclipse and every moon phases are accurate..   http://www.scribd.com/doc/36215072/Maya-Astronomy

Keep your garbage in your mouth next time!  Do not come here to distort facts...

QuoteUnlike you, I have already validated the theory with an experiment. I asked people who knew nothing about the experiment, to identify the moon that appeared one day before the full moon; they said it was a full moon. An error! I did the same with the moon that appeared day after the full moon. They said it was a full moon. Another error. And you call this a clear cut marker. Lies after lies whose root can be traced back to root meaning dictionary.


Seems that according to you... God made an error and every one of us should have been born with telescopic eyes or with a binocular in hand... this is pure bull_____!
3:7 He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding.
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Ayisha

Quote from: guest on September 30, 2010, 02:19:39 PM
Hey, I thought you were hiding behind Ayisha?s skirt. You had to come out to make fun of yourself again. Didn?t I tell you that you don?t know the implication of your own writing? Like Ayisha you respond without even understanding the question.
see 33.58



QuoteFor your information the Full Moon, the moon day before the full moon, and the moon day after the full moon, looks the same with naked eyes. You need telescope or binocular to see the difference in the moon disk. I suppose the average Arabs during the time of Prophet Muhammad was walking with a telescope to find the easy marker. If you remove the calculated full moon reference from you head you will pick the day before or the day after moon as the full moon.

Unlike you, I have already validated the theory with an experiment. I asked people who knew nothing about the experiment, to identify the moon that appeared one day before the full moon; they said it was a full moon. An error! I did the same with the moon that appeared day after the full moon. They said it was a full moon. Another error. And you call this a clear cut marker. Lies after lies whose root can be traced back to root meaning dictionary.

confirms Aymans red large red moon that only happens on one day  :peace:
In the name of God, The Compassionate, The Merciful.
Praise be to God, Lord of the Universe,
The Compassionate, The Merciful,
Sovereign of the Day of Judgement!
You alone we worship, and to You alone we turn for help.
Guide us to the straight path,
The path of those You have favoured,
Not of those who have incurred Your wrath,
Nor of those who have gone astray.