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AIDS (and cancer) cure, Essiac?
« on: August 05, 2010, 06:14:34 AM »
Peace,

>> If someone you care has been diagnosed with AIDS, what will you do to help him/her?

I know there has been several threads regarding AIDS as man-made (and state-invested), the conspiracy of pharmaceutical companies etc etc, but let us instead be curious about the cure for AIDS itself.

This is from Dr. Gary Glum's book, Full Disclosure (1994), Chapter 19:

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Is there hope? For you? For me? For all of us? The answer is yes. It lies in "natural medicine." Herbs.
God-given plants that have curative powers. The pharmaceutical giants will go on reaping billions in
profits selling drugs. But they won't market one that saves the lives of those afflicted with AIDS.

There will almost certainly never be a vaccine that will wipe out AIDS—as there was for polio. The virus
is too complex. It has the ability to mutate into thousands of genetic forms. The search for a vaccine will
merely squander precious resources enriching yet more scientists and corporations for no human benefit.
Many mainline scientists would agree that the chances for an AIDS vaccine in the foreseeable future are
slim—and none.

Yet the corporations persist—and pocket the money.23 Genentech, which is partly owned by Hoffman La
Roche, is, according to intelligence sources, willing to risk even more lives for their products. They are
cooperating with the World Health Organization to commence massive clinical trials of new vaccines
with uninfected volunteers. One of the new vaccines to be used in this clinical trial is manufactured from
HIV particles stripped of their envelopes. The trials are scheduled to begin in 1994.

The World Health Organization will search for volunteers among gays—and other "high risk"—subjects.
Each individual will have to make his or her own decision about participating in such a trial. Based on
what I've learned, here's the decision I'd make for myself: "No!"

Arab historians centuries ago concluded that medieval healers found a cure for the Black Plague—and
those who were rich enough to acquire it were reasonably safe from the death that surrounded them.
Historians of the era recorded that the herbal cure had a very high success rate.

Intelligence reports on microbiological experiments at the Institute of Immunology in Moscow speak of a
common weed found in Egypt being used to help AIDS patients. The weed is said to be mixed with 8-
methoxpsoralen, plus white cells from the AIDS patient and then exposed to ultraviolet light, after which
it is injected into the patient's body.

Another intelligence report mentions in passing that the National Cancer Institute requested plant
collectors from all over the world to send samples of plants to the Institute. Apparently this request was
activated by reports that British scientists were working on a compound taken from chestnut trees, black
mulberry trees and from tropical legumes, which was showing great potential in treating AIDS patients.

Other reports mention in passing a protein from pokeweed leaves that is far more effective than AZT in
inhibiting virus production. A natural compound containing pokeweed proteins enters cells, killing HIV
viruses without damaging the cells themselves. (Pokeweed is a weed, with poisonous berries and roots,
found in the U.S.)

The only success to come out of AIDS treatment in Africa so far has come from ancient herbal medicine.
Now that modern medical science has been seen by Africans as helpless against the onrush of the
epidemic, many are turning to traditional herbalists such as Grace Chihuri in Zimbabwe, who says she has
the cure for AIDS—and whose successes have led medical people and journalists from around the world
to visit her.

Grace works from her crowded Harare apartment, and stores her herbal medicine in old liquor bottles. In
her carefully kept redbook of the people she has snatched back from the jaws of death are more than a
hundred and twenty names. One of her patients was Sophie Chikondo, a registered nurse who contracted
AIDS while delivering the babies of HIV-positive mothers. Two of her friends, both nurses, who
contracted the AIDS virus after she did, have died. But the herbal medicine administered by Grace
Chihuri caused her diarrhea to disappear and the swelling in her groin and armpit to subside. That was
two years ago, and today Sophie is alive and seemingly well.

In the African country of Ghana, Nanan Kofi Drobo was an herbalist who attracted AIDS sufferers from
all over the world, particularly Europe. They came to him because of his amazing record of success in
healing AIDS cases, using only herbal compounds. Drobo was a man who knew what the Western
pharmaceutical companies did not know—or pretended they didn't know. He knew how to stop AIDS in
its tracks with herbal compounds.

His success in treating AIDS patients sent fear coursing through the medical and pharmaceutical
establishments. Drobo's work was not sanctioned by the Ghanian government, which was under pressure
from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and powerless to disobey the IMF's orders to destroy
Drobo's work. In the end, Drobo grew so renowned that he had to be killed. This heinous crime has been
officially classified as "suicide by means of self-inflicted gunshot wound."

The weird part is that all of Drobo's herbal compounds—and his formula and notes—were missing from
his home when he was found. What happened to them? So far, the Ghanian authorities are not saying.
None of this should be surprising. Western pharmaceutical companies, after all, make much of their profit
by chemically synthesizing the healing powers that are naturally present in plants. Whether it's aspirin or
digitalis, the beneficial effects come from plant life.

The same is true for AIDS. The cure exists in plant life. AIDS research is not necessary. All AIDS
research now is about money: Billions in profits. And the pharmaceutical giants know it. At least one of
them is well aware that an herbal formula that cures AIDS has been found and is being deliberately
withheld from the world. It will be made available only to the Olympians and their families and friends,
just as the Venetian oligarchists found and kept to themselves the secret Egyptian herb formula that kept
them and their families and friends safe during the Black Plague of the Middle Ages.

Those who have this herbal formula have every intention of keeping it a secret, and they have the power
to enforce that secrecy. Nor is anyone likely—as things stand now—to duplicate their discovery. Much of
the expensive scientific research into deliberately steered away from potentially fruitful approaches. Even
the best-financed scientific insitutions have been skillfully led down blind alleys.

There's nothing any of us can do to force these people to reveal their herbal treatment. But I can do this
much: I can present the information I've acquired about what they've learned, so that virologists and
genetic engineers who want to help mankind can finally go down the right path. The logic of what I'm
presenting here can be confirmed by any virologist in the world.

The right path is this: What they've discovered is a deoxyribonucleoside. AZT, DDI, DDC and all of the
other "promising" drugs use a neucleoside analog. That is to say, they all use a riboside.

Riboside allows the HIV-RNA messengers to invade the cellular membrane to the nuclei of the cell where
they replicate in geometrical progression: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64. In an amazingly short time, the numbers
become astronomical. That is what makes these drugs that "slow down" the infection worse than useless.

The companies that make them deliberately use the neucleoside analog instead of a deoxyribonucleoside,
which has the property that prevents the RNA viral messenger from infecting the nuclei of the cell.
Their secret product:
(1) Increases blood platelet integrity.
(2) Increases transmutation inhibition.
(3) Contains sufficient amounts of interferon.
(4) Increases the stem cells.
(5) Contains a co-enzyme which prevents RNA viral messengers from infecting the cell.

For virologists and genetic engineers, the key is in Appendix B, where the Cold Spring Harbor virologists
explain what the virus does. The solution is in a product that can stop the HIV from penetrating the cell.
(AZT, for instance, does not stop the penetration.) There are plant substances capable of doing this.

That's as much as I can say and hope to stay alive. I've now done all I can do. The rest is up to the
scientists who can see that this is the right direction—and are willing to follow it. And to all those who
aren't scientists and are willing to pursue the truth on their own. We have been told, and come to believe,
lies that are monstrous. Time is now short. Even the intelligence reports indicate that much. Only the truth
will save us. If we are to live with hope for our future—and the futures of our children and grandchildren;
indeed, civilization as we know it—we must quickly demand that our government and our leaders provide
us with absolutely nothing less than full disclosure.

full book here

http://www.healthfreedom.info/Full_Disclosure.htm
http://www.healthfreedom.info/Essiac%20AIDS.htm
http://www.aids.org/Factsheets/727-Essiac.html
http://www.compassion-response.net/08Treatments/06Essiac.htm

Now i have little clue of what Doctor is talking about, but i have just found out about this Essiac tea herbs that you can find on the website above (and other online sources). I read that it was banned in some countries but don't know if that's still the case today. What pisses me off is that the local customs in my country is also quite fussy about importing drugs/herbs (yes, "protection", but sometimes you wonder whom it's for). I don't how popular is this herb as a natural/alternative AIDS/cancer treatment. Besides, the general notion seems to be that it is still "unproven by modern science", despite numerous positive testimonials and absence of any negative effect. Wonder why.

A couple of questions, since you guys are spread all around the earth:

* Have you ever heard about this before?
* Have you ever heard (personally) success story(ies) of a person/people with AIDS treated with Essiac?
* How hard/easy it is to get Essiac from where you live?


P.S. i was going to ask about the science behind the cure (e.g., how does Essiac fit the five points above), but i haven't much clue on what to ask/respond :( so here goes... 

P.S.2 oh, if you're a conspiracy fanatic, you owe yourself to read the whole book


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Re: AIDS (and cancer) cure, Essiac?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 06:38:30 AM »
In case you still feel quite "safe" from AIDS:

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E. TRANSMISSION OF AIDS—SEXUAL INTERCOURSE.

1. Scientists and doctors have repeatedly stated as fact that the AIDSvirus is fundamentally
transmitted during sexual intercourse, but is, unfortunately, sometimes transmitted in blood.
This is highly misleading, though published laboratory and epidemiological evidence, and
editorials in scientific and medical journals, have been heavily slanted to support this "fact."

2. In reality, AIDS is characteristically a blood transmitted infection, which is only
transmitted with difficulty during sexual intercourse compared with the genuine sexually
transmitted diseases, gonorrhea and trichomonosias. All the exceptional epidiomological
evidence is consistent with this view.

3. Obviously AIDS is transmittable during sexual intercourse, but so is influenza, glandular
fever and scabies. Sexual intercourse is only one of many ways by which the virus can be
transmitted, and is by no means the most efficient.

4. The illusion that AIDS is essentially a sexually transmitted disease arose from the first
observations that AIDS appeared to affect only sodomites with numerous partners.
However, sodomy is not sexual intercourse in the biological sense of the word. As we are
dealing with a very important biological event, the transmission of a lethal parasite from
one human host to another, it is essential that scientists use words describing the
transmission with the utmost precision.

5. In biological terms sexual intercourse means the union of male and female which may
result in reproduction of the species. In mammals, this invariably requires contact between
male and female genitals. Consequently sexual intercourse between two men in the
biological sense is impossible.

6. Scientists who state, or simply imply sodomy is sexual intercourse without some
qualification are being imprecise and misleading, whether intentionally or not.

7. Homosexual men engaged in homosexual activities frequently insert their fingers, fist,
penis or tongue into the lower intestinal tract of their partners. These maneuvers transmit
any virus which persists in the blood for months or years with devastating efficiency, even
though no virus is present in either semen or saliva. This has been shown very clearly with
hepatitis B virus which, in prosperous communities, infects the majority of homosexual
men within three years of becoming sexually active; whereas hepatitis B infection remains
rare among heterosexual men and women, even though they frequently change partners.

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F. DISINFORMATION FROM SCIENTISTS.

1. The AIDS virus persists in an infectious state (i.e. cell-free virus) in blood and semen
levels up to 25,000 virions per milliliter, according to the only published paper giving this
critically important information. Cell-free virions were detected easily in saliva over two
years ago, but quantitative studies have still not been published.24

2. No infectious virion has been detected in semen, according to the only two detailed
studies published on the subject, which between them included a grand total of three men
examined. In ten percent of fifty infected men, according to another report sent to me
personally but which gave few details, cell-associated virus has been detected in a few
white blood cells in semen, but never in spermatozoa.

3. Virions have been detected in the vaginal secretions in only trivial quantities—about one
millilitre—indicating that their infectivity is minimal.

4. The scale of deception and misinformation perpetrated by virologists, clinicians, editors
of scientific and medical journals about the infectivity of genital secretions, compared with
that of blood, serum and saliva, has been astonishing. In the presence of a new, lethal virus
spreading amongst people for which no vaccine or cure is in sight, every sane person would
assume that scientists have been working flat out to verify precisely how it is transmitted.

5. On the contrary, having assumed for a variety of motives that AIDS is a sexually
transmitted disease like syphilis or gonorrhea, a negligible research effort has gone into the
critical matter of transmission. A few preliminary papers were published and their findings
have been frequently quoted as showing the opposite of what is actually showed. When this
is pointed out in letters to the editors of major medical and scientific journals, publication
has been refused. No attempt has been made to check, double-check, and recheck findings
in other laboratories, and in other countries, to rectify published errors.

6. As far as it goes, the tiny research effort into infectivity of bodily fluids indicates that
saliva is far more infectious than genital secretions, but that blood and serum is vastly more
infectious than either
. Consequently the idea that condoms can have any significant effect
on the spread of AIDS in a nation is utterly preposterous.

7. Governments all over the world are spending millions of pounds advising their citizens to
prevent AIDS by using condoms on the basis of manifestly fraudulent misrepresentation of
scientific evidence presented by scientists themselves.25

8. The AIDS virus is unusually stable outside the human body. It retains almost all of its
infectivity after seven days in water at room temperature and sometimes after being kept
dry for a week. A virus with this degree of stability, which persists in the blood and is shed
in saliva, cannot possibly fail to be transmitted in many ways apart from sexual intercourse.


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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 06:41:46 AM »
Example of how you may not be as safe from AIDS as you previously thought

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H. SATURATION OF THE BRITISH POPULATION WITH THE VIRUS.

1. There is a key to estimating how long it will take for the people of Great Britain to be
saturated with AIDS virus, if its spread is allowed to continue unchecked as at present. This
is the application of probability theory to the known facts about the virus, its pathogenesis,
the frequency of "contact" and the efficiency with which different "contacts" transmit the
virus.

2. The basic facts are that the entire population is susceptible to infection, and once people
are infected, they remain potentially infectious to others for life.

3. As the number of people infected rises, the probability of transmission during any contact
between people also rises.

4. Initially the virus was introduced into Britain from the United States by homosexual men
who soon infected others by having frequent, efficient "contacts"—sodomy with strangers.
As the number of infected homosexuals rises, the probability of infection being transmitted
through one "contact" rises at first exponentially, but then a slower doubling rate saturation
point with the homosexual population is approached.

5. As numbers of infected homosexuals and addicts increase, efficient "contacts" rarely
performed—such as receiving a blood transfusion, or clotting factor or having a
baby—infect more and more people.

6. Once a critical mass of people has been created by the highly efficient "contacts," then
"contacts" which are only moderately efficient, but occur frequently—such as normal
sexual intercourse or small children playing together—will spread the virus in everwidening
circles throughout the population.

7. Finally, highly inefficient "contacts" which occur very frequently, such as coughing in
public and being bitten by insects will infect many people as millions of infected persons
interact with the non-infected, and saturation of the entire British population becomes
unstoppable.


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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 06:48:45 AM »

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J. VARIETIES OF MISINFORMATION.

1. People with AIDS are categorized as belonging to a small number of "risk groups,"
giving the false impression that the vast majority of people cannot get AIDS.

2. AIDS is portrayed as only a behavioral disease caused by sexual and narcotic
misdemeanors. This implies that if anybody gets AIDS, it is their own fault.

3. Emphasis on transmission of the virus during sexual intercourse and education as a
solution to the epidemic implies that the disease will disappear with modified behavior.
This misses the point that as the epidemic explodes, infection by chance, non-sexual,
contact becomes even more common
.

4. By equating sodomy with sexual intercourse, the impression is given that homosexuals
have been just unlucky to get infected before heterosexuals. In reality homosexual activity
has spread the virus throughout the population at a vastly greater speed than normal sexual
intercourse could achieve
.

5. The value of blood tests for diagnoses of AIDS virus infection is repeatedly denigrated
by those who do not want them introduced compulsorily. In fact the blood test is an
unusually reliable diagnostic tool.

6. The suffering of those with AIDS is highlighted while ignoring the sufferings of those
who will get AIDS in the future if appropriate steps are not taken to stop its spread.

7. The rights of those infected with the virus are stressed while the rights of the uninfected
to be protected from infection with a lethal virus are ignored and glossed over. Protection of
the life of its citizens is the major obligation of the State.

8. Misinformation is perpetuated by homosexuals actively obstructing the publication, in
the scientific, or general press of facts and conclusions which they want suppressed.

these are all from the Appendix A of the book linked in the first post.



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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2010, 06:35:43 AM »
4. The scale of deception and misinformation perpetrated by virologists, clinicians, editors
of scientific and medical journals about the infectivity of genital secretions, compared with
that of blood, serum and saliva, has been astonishing. In the presence of a new, lethal virus
spreading amongst people for which no vaccine or cure is in sight, every sane person would
assume that scientists have been working flat out to verify precisely how it is transmitted.

6. As far as it goes, the tiny research effort into infectivity of bodily fluids indicates that
saliva is far more infectious than genital secretions, but that blood and serum is vastly more
infectious than either. Consequently the idea that condoms can have any significant effect
on the spread of AIDS in a nation is utterly preposterous.

Thank you for posting this. Having recently come home from vacation from one of the more sexually overactive destinations in the world i thought i was pretty safe "just" having a short romance excluding full sexual contact. I've just been fooling myself all the time i guess thinking that "only" sharing a few kisses here and there would'nt be such an unpious thing to do and regard it as something pretty innocent. But God does guide. And we'd really be lost if we were to be left to our own whims and fancies.

God bless you.
God is the light of all on high and all on earth. An example of His light is like a niche that contains a lamp, that lamp being in a certain kind of glass. And it is as if that glass were a brilliant star, lit from some blessed olive tree, neither western nor eastern. The oil of that tree will almost shine without being touched by any flame.  He is a light above any light, and guides to His light whoever wants it and whomever He wishes to bring to it. God gives metaphors for the benefit of people and is discerning of all things.

Quran - 24:35

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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2010, 09:41:48 AM »
It's amazing really that all STDs could be cured in a generation just by monogamy.
I'm a Christian ... just letting you know.

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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2010, 08:58:10 AM »
Thank you for posting this. Having recently come home from vacation from one of the more sexually overactive destinations in the world i thought i was pretty safe "just" having a short romance excluding full sexual contact. I've just been fooling myself all the time i guess thinking that "only" sharing a few kisses here and there would'nt be such an unpious thing to do and regard it as something pretty innocent. But God does guide. And we'd really be lost if we were to be left to our own whims and fancies.

God bless you.

Come to think of it, yeah, the saliva is much more precious and "private" than i thought. Best be careful. To put it into a better perspective, i'm used to sharing drink and food with my family and friends (e.g. same glass/same spoon etc) and i still think it's fine, given that i know for sure the person i'm sharing with (won't do that with a stranger). As for liplocking, um, yeah, better be aware of our saliva...


It's amazing really that all STDs could be cured in a generation just by monogamy.

Wootah, that may be the case for STDs. However, the main issue here is that AIDS is/maybe not as what has been portrayed in popular media. If you read Dr. Glum's book, or at least my previous post where i quoted:

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3. Emphasis on transmission of the virus during sexual intercourse and education as a
solution to the epidemic implies that the disease will disappear with modified behavior.
This misses the point that as the epidemic explodes, infection by chance, non-sexual,
contact becomes even more common.


+ a whole lot more important information in the book (free download, link in first post).

This is why i think there is a strong need to raise awareness of the true nature of AIDS, and its possible cure.

Who knows in the near future it may be a really good idea to have stocks of Essiac in your home. I'm trying to gather more information on this thread... (questions in the end of first post)


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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2010, 02:05:01 AM »

You guys....what are you doing?

Do you seriously just accept what one researcher is saying? One that has implemented conspiracy theories into his scientific research of Essiac? Do you guys know anything about Dr. Gary Glum? Do you know anything about AIDS? How come nobody has reacted on the fact that it says it is a cure for AIDS, not HIV? There is a HUUGE difference between treating AIDS and HIV. You guys know the difference? Do you know which one the scientists are trying to cure?

True, the HIV virus exists in saliva and other bodily fluids (with some exceptions, one is sperm). But in order to get actually get enough HIV virus transmitted into your body through saliva you need to gulp down about 50 litres of it. So Halil, you are safe unless you tried to drink the girl.

Peace out

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2010, 03:26:44 AM »
Hi Emil,

That is why i put this matter on board--complete with the question mark "?". I am a layman on this issue and i'm uncertain on many things he pointed out (so yeah, it's likely that i will make myself look stupid in this thread but i don't care, i'm still curious  :P).

However, he did point out how pursuing "HIV vaccine" is pointless

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Intelligence reports on the work done at Fort Detrick indicate that it will not be possible to produce a
vaccine against AIDS. A vaccine won't work, because what will work on one strain of HIV will not work
on another. The virus can alter itself, simply by altering a single amino acid on its outer shell. The
virologists at Fort Detrick have learned that there are almost 10,000 possible mutations of the AIDS virus.

As Dr. John Seale has reported: "The outlook for a successful vaccine is bleak. None is available for
lentivirus diseases of animals. Search for a vaccine against infectious anemia of horses for eight years,
and against maedi-visna in sheep for forty years has proved futile. Indeed when antibodies to a lentivirus
are produced artificially by vaccination, animals die after subsequent infection more rapidly than those
which are not. In spite of many successful vaccines, it should be realized that for the majority of viral and
bacterial diseases, vaccines do not work.

"No simple, effective, curative drug, like penicillin, will be available for AIDS in the foreseeable future,
because once a person is infected, the viral genetic code is permanently inserted into the human genetic
code of cells in the brain and other tissues. Any drug which blocks replication of the virus will have to be
taken for life. All drugs used so far are highly toxic and expensive. If a cheap, apparently effective drug
becomes available, it will take several decades to be certain that it is both safe and effective. Nevertheless,
many companies will announce 'promising' new drugs and a 'breakthrough' in the treatment for AIDS for
simple commercial motives." (Ch.15)

compare that to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_vaccine (you can always check the references)

Then he goes to mention near the end of the book, that the key to curing AIDS are:

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The right path is this: What they've discovered is a deoxyribonucleoside. AZT, DDI, DDC and all of the
other "promising" drugs use a neucleoside analog. That is to say, they all use a riboside.

Riboside allows the HIV-RNA messengers to invade the cellular membrane to the nuclei of the cell where
they replicate in geometrical progression: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64. In an amazingly short time, the numbers
become astronomical. That is what makes these drugs that "slow down" the infection worse than useless.
The companies that make them deliberately use the neucleoside analog instead of a deoxyribonucleoside,
which has the property that prevents the RNA viral messenger from infecting the nuclei of the cell.
Their secret product:

(1) Increases blood platelet integrity.
(2) Increases transmutation inhibition.
(3) Contains sufficient amounts of interferon.
(4) Increases the stem cells.
(5) Contains a co-enzyme which prevents RNA viral messengers from infecting the cell.

For virologists and genetic engineers, the key is in Appendix B, where the Cold Spring Harbor virologists
explain what the virus does. The solution is in a product that can stop the HIV from penetrating the cell.
(AZT, for instance, does not stop the penetration.) There are plant substances capable of doing this.
(Ch 19)

This is what i want to make sure of. Do you have something against the information above? Or anything in his book? If so, please share. Right now, i don't care if this Doc is a quack or what. My response to your

You guys....what are you doing?

is this:

Peace,

>> If someone you care has been diagnosed with AIDS, what will you do to help him/her?


hence the title.


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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2010, 03:31:28 AM »
Alternative views, by the way:

http://www.duesberg.com/

...proposed the hypothesis that the various American/European AIDS diseases are brought on by the long-term consumption of recreational drugs and/or AZT itself, which is prescribed to prevent or treat AIDS.


http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/

Is HIV really the cause of AIDS?


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