Hadith inspired Khalifa's messengership

[OPF]

The probability of me wearing a plain brown jumper, if you look at it from a physical perspective is 1 in something obscene. The probability of me wearing a brown jumper with a printed design on it of a particular shape is 1 out of a far more obscene number, let alone getting to my choice of underwear. That does not mean that my clothing is a mathematical miracle from the lord of the worlds in such a way. I can choose anything and the probability for it to be that way is obscene. The miracle lies in the fact that the probability exists and is in an obscene form, that is what shows our reality is structured in a way known only by the unseen. It does not however mean that my choice of jumper is a mathematical miracle and this is what 19ers do not understand. Very basic mathematics is easy to use in a way that misleads if those placing themselves in a position to be mislead don't understand very basic mathematics.

[Bahman]

. It doeVery basic mathematics is easy to use in a way that misleads if those placing themselves in a position to be mislead don't understand very basic mathematics.

Do you understand this?
He does not know very basic mathematic  
http://suphys.phys.subr.edu/phys/faculty/fazely.htm
read these you may learn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjtetxrvu18

[Noon de Plume]

Peace,

Do you understand this?
He does not know very basic mathematic 
http://suphys.phys.subr.edu/phys/faculty/fazely.htm

Yes he's clueless obsessed with numerology and this thread is about this -- do you believe the claim is true?

Here is a translation of the part of the Hadith that inspired Khalifa in case you can’t read Arabic:

As for Abraham, I have never seen a man who looks more like me and I look more like him.

 

[ayman]

Peace Noon,

Forget about probabilities. Since Rashad based his messengership on his looks resembling Abraham then, by the same token, 19ers would be convinced of your Code 29 and all traces of doubt would be removed if you look like Rashad. 

Peace,

Ayman

[Bahman]

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Peace Bahman,
Forget about probabilities since it seems that you just won't get it.

Thank you for your comment. I see you and your supporters voices are weakening as Satan is taking off your mind, and you are the first to offer to "forget probability" That is best news for me and end of this round discussion. GW  I have done my task as God’s soldier not by praying 17 times with  or without idol and then abuse words of God for own desires, power, position but believing deeply in 2:62, all any human needs to do then we will have a good society but it never happen up to the time of day of judgement when all disbelievers are counting those 19 angels in the hell that do id not believe in God’s word and changed many times into meanings that supports their idolization of Their Big and Small Imams.
You want we forget portability  because you see how your denial of Rashad’s claim for 84 cubes has  no basis and totally wrong when it has SOLID   Mathematical bases and you are afraid so much for loosing your  leadership of disbelievers if they find how you have been wrong willingly or not knowingly or not.
God is watching us closely and even any bite on this screen is not hide from it.
How ever for first time I did search for 84 cubes  
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:&rlz=1I7GWYE&q=+If+we+work+with+84+cubes,&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
The top one is
 Rashad’s claim in video  for evolution in 1987 and he explains in detail those 84 CUBES  
Watch 7:52  this clip  
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6384799782788614376#
in same search you notice  group of scientist 1993 are studying the Darwin’s theory and reach to same conclusion as Rashad. Watch  part 2 of 7   2:52
http://article.wn.com/view/2010/03/17/Evolution_God_Can_CoExist/

Just put yourself in the shoes of Khalifa and let's give him the benefit of the doubt for a minute and assume that he didn't delibrately lie and was merely brainwashed and thus delusional. Would you have claimed messengership based on a dream that you knew was a copy of a Hadith that you heard as a kid?

Did you read this?

22:52
We did not send before you any messenger, nor a prophet, without having the devil interfere in his wishes. GOD then nullifies what the devil has done. GOD perfects His revelations. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.

I never accepted Rashad's dream as it could not be solid proof and may Satan wronged him to such dream in the place that Ayman's search is claiming the place he had dream is a deception. I am not rejecting works of Miracle disbelievers like Ayman or the astronomer found speed of light.
But God says  God then  nullifies what the devil has done.?
Peace.

Now you see how Satans scheme is mulled, showing that a messenger of God do same Mistake if Mohammed did and was written in Hadith.  Certainly Rashad grown up in a religious family and studying Hadith all his life has been aware of such story.  He did dream and Satan lead him to such dream. He as Messenger of God could not hide it and wrote down even knew that is copy of Hadith. God knows future and things  that we do not know and in many bad things are good one too.
Rashd was a believer and had to write such dream for today you find it in Hadith and a clear proof for human flabbily. God shows us how Satan write that story and His messenger made mistake and copied same story.  Then Rashad was inspired to NULL  Satan schemes as that dream can not be solid base for his claim and those related Arabic language is good only for a minority of earth population which have enough knowledge of Arabic.
Now we have 114 CUBES.
I appreciate readers and truth seekers for their patience for such lengthily discussion for last 12 years.
Praise be to God Lord of Universe for His nullifying Satan’s scheme and inspired Rashad to design table 23.
Table 23 is SOLID PROOF  for Rash to be the one in 3:81  
God Bless Believers.
I am not participating in any discussion as my time would be promoting God words based on proof.  
Bahman Goharzad
25/04/2010 11:16:25 PM

[Noon de Plume]

Peace,

Rashad’s claim in video  for evolution in 1987 and he explains in detail those 84 CUBES  
Watch 7:52  this clip  
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6384799782788614376#
in same search you notice  group of scientist 1993 are studying the Darwin’s theory and reach to same conclusion as Rashad. Watch  part 2 of 7   2:52
http://article.wn.com/view/2010/03/17/Evolution_God_Can_CoExist/

This has ZERO to do with nineteen or his bizarre behavior and claims; see also...

"Natural Selection and the Complexity of the Gene" by Frank Salisbury in Nature (vol. 224, Oct. 25, 1969, pp. 342-3)

Carl Sagan -- Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (MIT Press, 1973)
the odds against a specific human genome being assembled by chance as 1 in 10^2,000,000,000!

Now we have 114 CUBES.

Which I've shown you numerous times have a septillion multiples!

God Bless Believers.
I am not participating in any discussion as my time would be promoting God words based on proof.  
Bahman Goharzad
25/04/2010 11:16:25 PM

Take care -- perhaps have a look a Code 29, it's far superior and best of all no fitnah involved.

Peace

[ayman]

Peace Bahman,

There is no point in discussing probabilities with you since it is clear that you neither have the basic academic background nor the aptitude. So let's focus on what everyone can understand.

Now you see how Satans scheme is mulled, showing that a messenger of God do same Mistake if Mohammed did and was written in Hadith.  Certainly Rashad grown up in a religious family and studying Hadith all his life has been aware of such story.  He did dream and Satan lead him to such dream. He as Messenger of God could not hide it and wrote down even knew that is copy of Hadith. God knows future and things  that we do not know and in many bad things are good one too.
Rashd was a believer and had to write such dream for today you find it in Hadith and a clear proof for human flabbily. God shows us how Satan write that story and His messenger made mistake and copied same story.  Then Rashad was inspired to NULL  Satan schemes as that dream can not be solid base for his claim and those related Arabic language is good only for a minority of earth population which have enough knowledge of Arabic.

It is only hero worshippers like you who need proof that humans are fallible, which doesn't need proof. Even using Khalifa's translation of 22:52, it is clear that it has nothing to do with proving that humans are fallible.  Moreover, we are not talking about messengers here. We are talking about what you admit is a Satan inspired lie that is not befitting of even an average half-decent person.

Just read the beginning of Appendix 2 under the title The Covenant Fulfilled. Khalifa used the dream as the basis of his messengership. The dream according to him was the "fulfillment of the covenant" that he built his claim of being the messenger of the covenant on. He knew very well that without the dream then he is just another guy playing with numbers like Arik and many others. You have admitted that what Khalifa himself described as the "fulfillment of the covenant" is nothing more than a satanic lie. So how can you accept that he is the messenger of the covenant with a sober mind when everything that is built on falsehood must be equally false?

Peace,

Ayman

[seattletruth]

Just read the beginning of Appendix 2 under the title The Covenant Fulfilled. Khalifa used the dream as the basis of his messengership. The dream according to him was the "fulfillment of the covenant" that he built his claim of being the messenger of the covenant on.

Peace Ayman. If you really look at the claims involved with this dream, you will see that it makes even less sense.

Like you said, Khalifa claims that this dream "fulfilled the prophecy". But if you look at his dream at face value, it doesn't add up. He claims he had this dream in 1971. He didn't discover code 19 until 1974. So he didn't even know about code 19 when he had the dream!! How on earth could the be fulfilling the prophecy of going to the prophets and confirming their scriptures??! It just don't add up, when you look at the dates!

Add onto this the facts that Rashad wrote books about the "miracle" involving the Quranic initials, BEFORE he discovered code 19, and we come to the conclusion that Rashad was a megalomaniac who claimed to discover a miracle in the Quran before he even found one!!!!! Of course he was looking for something, then he used numerology to "prove" his delusions correct.

[Bahman]

This has ZERO to do with nineteen or his bizarre behavior and claims; see also...

The opposite is true, the more the combinations the greater the multiples regardless how many digits...

5 factorial = 120 combinations expected to have 6 multiples!
6 factorial = 720 combinations expected to have 37 multiples!
7 factorial = 5040 combinations with (7 factorial) / 19 = 265.263158 multiples!
Likewise for the ten time already, 114 Factorial = http://www.numberempire.com/factorialcalculator.php
(114 factorial) / 19 = 1.33871565 × 10^185 multiples!
What is true, if you increase the divisor to 29 for example then it gets much harder to find a multiple.

[Noon de Plume]

The probability of molecules forming into DNA/life has NOTHING to do with finding a multiple = #of combinations/divisor.

Peace Bahman,

There is no point in discussing probabilities with you since it is clear that you neither have the basic academic background nor the aptitude.

It's no wonder that the most deficient in basic logic and simple math aptitude are into this nineteen nonsense.

[Jamaludean]

Salaam
Hoe said Rashad had a dream
The vidio clearly say that he was awaik and his father
and mother was in the room with him.
I believe Rashad never dreamed when he was taken up
to see all the profets , if you submitters believe that he is
the messenger of ALLAAH than you should believe R.K
when he said that Abram resembels his famaly.
Arik or Edip please give me some proof that he was dreaming.

[ayman]

Hoe said Rashad had a dream
The vidio clearly say that he was awaik and his father
and mother was in the room with him.
I believe Rashad never dreamed when he was taken up
to see all the profets , if you submitters believe that he is
the messenger of ALLAAH than you should believe R.K
when he said that Abram resembels his famaly.
Arik or Edip please give me some proof that he was dreaming.

It's no wonder that the most deficient in basic logic and simple math aptitude are into this nineteen nonsense.

[Jamaludean]

Ayman
WHY are you acting like a
KAFFER
You have no proof that rashad was
dreaming and you did not know rashad
personaly like edip.

Ayman repend and believe that R.K
is / was  the messenger of the covanand (3:81)
look at the proof / signs and stop with
your KAFFER idias

[Noon de Plume]

Ayman
WHY are you acting like a
KAFFER
You have no proof that rashad was
dreaming and you did not know rashad
personaly like edip.

Ayman repend and believe that R.K
is / was  the messenger of the covanand (3:81)
look at the proof / signs and stop with
your KAFFER idias

Your post is clear proof...

49      words
2      /
1      .
1      (
1      3
1      :
1      8
1      1
1      )

58   = 2 x 29!

For more proof see thread code 29: http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9600295.0

Peace   

[seattletruth]

LOL... I was reading a book written by Time-Life in the 60s (part of a series) called History of Early Islam.

In the first chapter it tells this exact hadith, about Muhammad going to heaven and how Abraham looked exactly like him.

I asked a Sunni friend living in Egypt and she says that its a VERY COMMON hadith, and every Sunni knows it well.

There's NO CHANCE that Khalifa never heard this hadith.