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mmkhan

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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2012, 10:19:44 AM »
Salaam,

How about 2:133?

2:133 اَمۡ کُنۡتُمۡ شُہَدَآءَ اِذۡ حَضَرَ یَعۡقُوۡبَ الۡمَوۡتُ ۙ اِذۡ قَالَ لِبَنِیۡہِ مَا تَعۡبُدُوۡنَ مِنۡۢ بَعۡدِیۡ ؕ قَالُوۡا نَعۡبُدُ اِلٰہَکَ وَ اِلٰـہَ اٰبَآئِکَ اِبۡرٰہٖمَ وَ اِسۡمٰعِیۡلَ وَ اِسۡحٰقَ اِلٰـہًا وَّاحِدًا ۚۖ وَّ نَحۡنُ لَہٗ مُسۡلِمُوۡنَ

2:133 Or were you witnesses when death approached Yaa'qoob, when he said to his sons, "What will you worship after me?" They said, "We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac - one God. And we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."


May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path  :pr
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6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
 
3:51    إن الله ربي وربكم فاعبدوه هذا صرط مستقيم
3:51    Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him,

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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2012, 10:45:07 AM »
Quote from: mmkhan on June 30, 2012, 10:19:44 AM
Salaam,

How about 2:133?

2:133 اَمۡ کُنۡتُمۡ شُہَدَآءَ اِذۡ حَضَرَ یَعۡقُوۡبَ الۡمَوۡتُ ۙ اِذۡ قَالَ لِبَنِیۡہِ مَا تَعۡبُدُوۡنَ مِنۡۢ بَعۡدِیۡ ؕ قَالُوۡا نَعۡبُدُ اِلٰہَکَ وَ اِلٰـہَ اٰبَآئِکَ اِبۡرٰہٖمَ وَ اِسۡمٰعِیۡلَ وَ اِسۡحٰقَ اِلٰـہًا وَّاحِدًا ۚۖ وَّ نَحۡنُ لَہٗ مُسۡلِمُوۡنَ

2:133 Or were you witnesses when death approached Yaa'qoob, when he said to his sons, "What will you worship after me?" They said, "We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac - one God. And we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."


May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path  :pr
mmKhan

How about you closely examine Classic Arabic like Badar Kanwar does?
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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2012, 11:31:56 PM »
Quote from: Kaiokenred on June 30, 2012, 10:45:07 AM
How about you closely examine Classic Arabic like Badar Kanwar does?

Dear brother,

I try to examine Arabic through AlQuraan itself unlike Badar.

Can you [or Badar] please translate 16:98 for me by using your current understanding of the word "Allah"? And most importantly 20:14 with your current understanding of word "Allah".

Thanks in advance.

mmKhan
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6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
 
3:51    إن الله ربي وربكم فاعبدوه هذا صرط مستقيم
3:51    Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him,

Sir Comcision

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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2012, 02:55:28 AM »
LOL, now there's a contention over the meaning of "Allah"? :rotfl:
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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2012, 03:51:54 AM »
Quote from: mmkhan on June 30, 2012, 11:31:56 PM
Dear brother,

I try to examine Arabic through AlQuraan itself unlike Badar.

Can you [or Badar] please translate 16:98 for me by using your current understanding of the word "Allah"? And most importantly 20:14 with your current understanding of word "Allah".

Thanks in advance.

mmKhan

Sure you do, and Badar hasn't been online for 2-3 days now
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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2012, 06:48:34 AM »
Quote from: Sir Comcision on July 01, 2012, 02:55:28 AM
LOL, now there's a contention over the meaning of "Allah"? :rotfl:

وَالَّذِينَ يُحَاجُّونَ فِي اللَّهِ مِن بَعْدِ مَا اسْتُجِيبَ لَهُ حُجَّتُهُمْ دَاحِضَةٌ عِندَ رَبِّهِمْ وَعَلَيْهِمْ غَضَبٌ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ   
Transliteration   Waallatheena yuhajjoona fee Allahi min baAAdi ma istujeeba lahu hujjatuhum dahidatun AAinda rabbihim waAAalayhim ghadabun walahum AAathabun shadeedun   

http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/42/16/default.htm
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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2012, 06:53:13 AM »
Quote from: Mazhar on July 01, 2012, 06:48:34 AM
وَالَّذِينَ يُحَاجُّونَ فِي اللَّهِ مِن بَعْدِ مَا اسْتُجِيبَ لَهُ حُجَّتُهُمْ دَاحِضَةٌ عِندَ رَبِّهِمْ وَعَلَيْهِمْ غَضَبٌ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ   
Transliteration   Waallatheena yuhajjoona fee Allahi min baAAdi ma istujeeba lahu hujjatuhum dahidatun AAinda rabbihim waAAalayhim ghadabun walahum AAathabun shadeedun   

http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/42/16/default.htm

Nice proof. Maybe Sunnis should say that to Quranists because I mean, that verse says to not argue about what Allah is and just accept your view as the truth, and that means accept everything as it is, because things are exactly like they seem and the world is a paradise full of love and care  without any greed or stupidity at all
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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2012, 02:55:45 AM »
Quote from: Kaiokenred on June 30, 2012, 10:10:58 AM
The word Allah means there is no God. And that basically means there is no god at all. Not except for him, there is simply no God, there is ONLY Allah ( Not God )

There is no God except the not God? Do you mean no God but the One who does not need worship? Or just not God?
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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2012, 03:03:15 AM »
Peace Kaiokenred;


As you stated  "The word Allah means there is no God" how do you translate the expreession "LAA ILAAHA";

Brother Bigmo, likely our brother Kaiokenred is confusd?

Peace.
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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2012, 03:21:33 AM »
Quote from: Bigmo on July 02, 2012, 02:55:45 AM
There is no God except the not God? Do you mean no God but the One who does not need worship? Or just not God?

There is no god at all, that's what I'm trying to say. Allah is not a god, the concept of Allah is the opposite of a god. The real meaning of a god is " one who is invoked ", That is as you see, extremely religious and can't possibly describe Allah, You do not invoke Allah, also a god is an outside force that controls reality, while Allah manifests all reality from the inside-out, you can confirm it if you want by using Quantum Mechanics
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