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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2012, 05:34:36 PM »
Did you even bother reading the very first post of this thread ?

Shalom Aleikhem,

Incase you have not noticed, there is a stumbling block. Not having any clue about the words, no comments can be made about that post as a whole. An objection raised was regarding "regular translation". Thus my inquiry. But I do agree, its somewhat at a tangent.

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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2012, 02:19:40 AM »
Peace all,


"Did you even bother reading the very first post of this thread ?"
Really i couldn't pick up any genuine matter there! But for me ALLAH is al ilah = THE DIVINITY, when ilah stands for any divinity that is not hence worth to be worshipped.

The expression إِنَّمَا اللّهُ إِلَـهٌ وَاحِدٌ means " in fact The God is the only Divivinity (to be praised)"...

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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2012, 02:40:17 AM »
Peace all,


"Did you even bother reading the very first post of this thread ?"
Really i couldn't pick up any genuine matter there! But for me ALLAH is al ilah = THE DIVINITY, when ilah stands for any divinity that is not hence worth to be worshipped.

The expression إِنَّمَا اللّهُ إِلَـهٌ وَاحِدٌ means " in fact The God is the only Divivinity (to be praised)"...

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"The God" sounds pretty lame. If Allah was a god He would call Himself Ilah, but he's not.
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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2012, 03:07:32 AM »
Peace Kaiokenred;
"If Allah was a god He would call Himself Ilah, but he's not."!!
How can you claim this when:
He does confirm the He is "ilahun waahidun"
The expression ALLLAH  is a contraction between the de definite article and the word ilah that is the "ilah".

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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2012, 03:38:38 AM »
Peace Kaiokenred;
"If Allah was a god He would call Himself Ilah, but he's not."!!
How can you claim this when:
He does confirm the He is "ilahun waahidun"
The expression ALLLAH  is a contraction between the de definite article and the word ilah that is the "ilah".

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No, Allah is a contraction between the words Allathi la Ilah, which means who is not God
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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2012, 03:42:58 AM »
Peace Kaiokenred;
my former post was dirty please have this one:

"If Allah was a god He would call Himself Ilah, but he's not."!!
How can you claim this when:
1.He does confirm  He is "ilahun waahidun"
2.The expression ALLLAH  is a contraction between "the"  definite article and the word "ilah".   
3. Definitly, it is clear that within some infinite sets of ilahs, there is only one to be praise in order to be saved, "The Ilah" or Allah.


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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2012, 04:27:12 AM »
Peace Kaiokenred;

Are you missing something very important by sataing "No, Allah is a contraction between the words Allathi la Ilah, which means who is not God"?

The contraction is not due to the linear proximity of the words Allathi la Ilah, but rather to the expressivity of the ilah itself: you ar free to woership anything you choose, but the wright choice is when you choose one able of everything, the allmight, be you arab, english,...

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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2012, 06:58:12 AM »
Peace Kaiokenred;

Are you missing something very important by sataing "No, Allah is a contraction between the words Allathi la Ilah, which means who is not God"?

The contraction is not due to the linear proximity of the words Allathi la Ilah, but rather to the expressivity of the ilah itself: you ar free to woership anything you choose, but the wright choice is when you choose one able of everything, the allmight, be you arab, english,...

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No it's not. Allah does not mean The Ilah (God) but who is not Ilah (God). Allah is the complete opposite of a god. A god was created with bullshit such as religion, thus the imagination of greedy/fearful people. A god is a supernatural being that controls reality from the outside, Allah manifests reality from the inside. Worship whatever you want, no matter what you worship, it's worthless and stupid act and in the Quran, translated by actual Classic Arabic without considering anything from hadith, we're told not to worship anyone.
“Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.” - Buddha

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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2012, 07:52:33 AM »
No, Allah is a contraction between the words Allathi la Ilah, which means who is not God

Allathi la ilah ILLA HU

You missed except for Him.
88:21 22; And so, exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe

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Re: Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2012, 10:10:58 AM »
Allathi la ilah ILLA HU

You missed except for Him.

The word Allah means there is no God. And that basically means there is no god at all. Not except for him, there is simply no God, there is ONLY Allah ( Not God )
“Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.” - Buddha