Author Topic: What is this referring to? : Women & Beauty: A Secret Revealed in the Qur'an  (Read 491 times)

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I'm a little confused about this little bit of writing.  I'm not sure what it's referring to?  Is it a body part or several body parts??

http://www.quranicpath.com/quranicpath/women_beauty.html

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I'm a little confused about this little bit of writing.  I'm not sure what it's referring to?  Is it a body part or several body parts??

http://www.quranicpath.com/quranicpath/women_beauty.html

To me it reads that women have a natural beauty both inside and out, which, as far as I am concerned, is true
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This one?

43:20 “What good is an offspring that is brought up to be beautiful, and cannot help in a fight?”

Because i have wondered always about the uniqness of this verse ....
very .... powerful and informative.

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This one?

43:20 “What good is an offspring that is brought up to be beautiful, and cannot help in a fight?”


Are you sure that verse 43:20 says this?!

I have verse 43:20 says: "And they say: If the Beneficent One had (so) willed, we should not have worshipped them. They have no knowledge whatsoever of that. They do but guess".

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Are you sure that verse 43:20 says this?!

I have verse 43:20 says: "And they say: If the Beneficent One had (so) willed, we should not have worshipped them. They have no knowledge whatsoever of that. They do but guess".

I think thar verse is 43:18


[43:18] Awaman yunashshao fee alhilyatiwahuwa fee alkhisami ghayru mubeenin  اومن ينشا في الحلية وهو في الخصام غير مبين
أَوَمَن يُنَشَّأُ فِي الْحِلْيَةِ وَهُوَ فِي الْخِصَامِ غَيْرُ مُبِينٍ
Tahir ul Qadri   اور کیا (اللہ اپنے امور میں شراکت و معاونت کے لئے اسے اولاد بنائے گا) جو زیور و زینت میں پرورش پائے اور (نرمیٔ طبع اور شرم و حیاء کے باعث) جھگڑے میں واضح (رائے کا اظہار کرنے والی بھی) نہ ہو
 
Yousuf Ali Is then one brought up among trinkets, and unable to give a clear account in a dispute (to be associated with Allah)? 
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Ahmed Ali کیا اس کے لیے وہ ہے جو زیور میں پلتی ہے اور وہ جھگڑتے میں بات نہیں کر سکتی
Ahmed Raza Khan اور کیا وہ جو گہنے (زیور) میں پروان چڑھے اور بحث میں صاف بات نہ کرے
Shabbir Ahmed کیا (اللہ کے حصے میں وہ اولاد ہے) جو پالی جاتی ہے زیوروں میں اور وہ بحث و حجت میں اپنا مدعا بھی واضح نہیں کرسکتی؟
Literal -  Is who (is) being brought up/originated in the ornament/decoration (luxuriated i.e.: girls and those effeminate and unmanly) and he is in the dispute/controversy/argument not evident/shown ?
Yusuf Ali-   Is then one brought up among trinkets, and unable to give a clear account in a dispute (to be associated with Allah)? 
Pickthal -   (Liken they then to Allah) that which is bred up in outward show, and in dispute cannot make itself plain? 
Arberry What, one who is reared amid ornaments and, when the time of altercation comes, is not to be seen?
Shakir -  What! that which is made in ornaments and which in contention is unable to make plain speech! 
Sarwar -   Does God choose for Himself the kind of children who grow up wearing ornaments and who are not strong enough to defend their rights?.
H/K/Saheeh -  So is one brought up in ornaments while being during conflict unevident [attributed to Allah]? 
Malik -   Do they ascribe to Allah, the female gender who is brought up among trinkets and is unable to make herself clear in disputation?[18]
Maulana Ali**    Is one decked with ornaments and unable to make plain speech in disputes (a partner with God)?
Free Minds "   What good is an offspring that is brought up to be beautiful, and cannot help in a fight?"
Qaribullah   - (As such they attribute to Allah) who is brought up among ornaments but when disputes arise are powerless. 
George -  Sale Do they therefore attribute unto God female issue, which are brought up among ornaments, and are contentious without cause? 
JM Rodwell -  What! make they a being to be the offspring of God who is brought up among trinkets, and is ever contentious without reason?
Asad -   "What! [Am I to have a daughter -] one who is to be reared [only] for the sake of ornament?" [I.e., one who, from the viewpoint of the pre-Islamic Arabs, would have no function other than "embellishing" a man's life.] - and thereupon he finds himself torn by a vague inner conflict. [Lit., "he finds himself in an invisible (ghayr mubin) conflict" - i.e., an inner conflict which he does noot quite admit to his consciousness: cf. 16:59 - "[he debates within himself:] Shall he keep this child despite the contempt [which he feels for it] - or shall he bury it in the dust?" (See also, in particular, the corresponding note.)]
Khalifa**     (They say,) "What is good about an offspring that is brought up to be beautiful, and cannot help in war?" 
Hilali/Khan**    (Do they then like for Allah) a creature who is brought up in adornments (wearing silk and gold ornaments, i.e. women), and in dispute cannot make herself clear?
QXP Shabbir Ahemd**    (He says), "What! That which has to be raised in ornaments?" And then he finds himself in an inner conflict (whether to let the daughter live or bury her in 
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Are you sure that verse 43:20 says this?!

I have verse 43:20 says: "And they say: If the Beneficent One had (so) willed, we should not have worshipped them. They have no knowledge whatsoever of that. They do but guess".

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I took it from The Quran from free minds.
I checked again and read it: here it is:

43:20 “What good is an offspring that is brought up to be beautiful, and cannot help in a fight?”


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39:53 Say: “O My servants who transgressed against themselves, do not despair of God\'s mercy. For God forgives all sins. He is the Forgiver, the Merciful.”