A new take on Code 19

[smmirza]

Hey Guys,
I have been thinking a lot about code 19 in Surah 74 and to me it seems there is something to it.  I think the code 19 signifies some event of momentous calamity/shocker and it is tied to number 19.  I started looking around and guess what?  There were 19 hijackers in the 9/11 attacks. 
074.026 : Soon will I cast/fling him into Saqar!
074.027 : And what will explain to thee what Saqar is?
074.028 : It leaveth naught; it spareth naught
074:029 : Darkening and changing the colour of man!**
074.030 : Over it are Nineteen
074.031 : And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind.
** This verse is contested as meaning something different.  Could someone give a more precise meaning please?
Saqar is referenced in another place:
054.048: The Day they will be dragged through the Fire on their faces, (they will hear:) "Taste ye the touch of Saqar!"
To me Saqar seems to be a state of mind.  It could mean reality/regret/astonishment/pain.
74:31 seems to me that it is talking about the believers and how the Quran talks about 9/11.  Also, People of the Book (Christians/Jews) know that it is retribution from God so their (corrupted) faith is strenghtened.  As far as the atheists, they probably look at 9/11 and think if God existed He would never let this happen and so they stray further.  What do you guys think?

[Ahmad Bilal]

Peace Smmirza,

I agree with you on your concept of 'saqar'; it appears to be a state of mind, something that the disbelievers will be plagued by, such as "reality, regret, astonishment, or pain". It's not a physical place, and the common translation of it as "hell" is completely incorrect.

Regarding the translation of 74:29, it uses the word "lawaaha", which is used throughout the reading to refer to something obvious or manifest; it's also used to describe the tablets which God wrote the scriptures upon (i.e. the Tavrah and the Quran). It's never used to refer to darkening, burning, or scorching anyone... Also, the concept of "color" is not mentioned at all in this passage either. Many translators have intentionally mistranslated this passage, even to the extent of translating "bashar" as SKIN, which is completely wrong. So, in this case, a better translation of 74:29 is, "Obvious (or manifest) to all the people."

On this issue of it relating to the 9/11 incident, I've never looked into this ideology. Personally, I think the whole "September 11th" issue was a huge conspiracy... But I won't even get into that. Perhaps this Quranic passage was referring to that incident, or maybe it was something else. I believe it's probably talking about the same insistence of "lawaaha" that refer to the tablets of God's protected scripture, namely the Hebrew Tavrah, the Aramaic Injeel, and the Arabic Quran; I think they all possess the factors of the code 19 concept, and it is used to protect and authenticate the message. Again, this is just my personal view, and God knows best.

Peace,

Ahmad

[Jim19]

Hey Guys,
I have been thinking a lot about code 19 in Surah 74 and to me it seems there is something to it.  I think the code 19 signifies some event of momentous calamity/shocker and it is tied to number 19.  I started looking around and guess what?  There were 19 hijackers in the 9/11 attacks. 
074.026 : Soon will I cast/fling him into Saqar!
074.027 : And what will explain to thee what Saqar is?
074.028 : It leaveth naught; it spareth naught
074:029 : Darkening and changing the colour of man!**
074.030 : Over it are Nineteen
074.031 : And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind.
** This verse is contested as meaning something different.  Could someone give a more precise meaning please?
Saqar is referenced in another place:
054.048: The Day they will be dragged through the Fire on their faces, (they will hear:) "Taste ye the touch of Saqar!"
To me Saqar seems to be a state of mind.  It could mean reality/regret/astonishment/pain.
74:31 seems to me that it is talking about the believers and how the Quran talks about 9/11.  Also, People of the Book (Christians/Jews) know that it is retribution from God so their (corrupted) faith is strenghtened.  As far as the atheists, they probably look at 9/11 and think if God existed He would never let this happen and so they stray further.  What do you guys think?

Shalom , Peace , Asalaam Alaikoum Smmirza

Thank you for the information. 19 is the secret mathematical code of the Quran that PROVES it is word of God.That it! No other number can be the secret but the 19.

there's a big secret about attack of 11 september 2001 , There were 19 hijackers  , in Quran there's a verset mentioned 11 times , the verse says [77:19] Woe on that day to the rejectors.
there's not doubt that it were a relationship direct between that attack and the Quran , because the first enemy of the  messenger Rashad ( Peace be upon him ) is ossama Iben Laden , he bought all the copys of the first book  " the mathematical miracle in the Quran ) and destroyed them ,  that book were wrote by the messenger Rashad ( peace be upon him ) in 1980 in lebanon .
the terrorist wants gives a message for the free world especially for US , the future of the islam it will be in the heart of US , the submitters will be attacked by Gog and Magog , there is not doubt that Gog and Magog is themself the terrorits .

[2:11] When they are told, "Do not commit evil," they say, "But we are righteous."

[2:12] In fact, they are evildoers, but they do not perceive.

what's the message of satan in that attack , by the way the 11/9/2001 is the first day of the third world war,


satan wants to say us that the 11 is a punishment of God for the disbelievers ( the free world )  he used the verse 77:19] Woe on that day to the rejectors

and by the 19 ( the 19 terrorists ) (and we assigned their number (19) he wants say us that world ( the free world ) they are disbelievers then ( This is a reminder for the people ) he used the smartness by using Quran .

[74:31] We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their number (19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers, (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4) to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say, "What did GOD mean by this allegory?" GOD thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills. None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. This is a reminder for the people.

lets us to see together what the Quran answered to satan and to his terrorits ( Gog and Magog )

the proof that Quran is sent by God and that Satan and the terrorits are already losers


the classification of all Quranic initials in the quran

"2.3.7.10.11.12.13.14.15."19".20.26.27.28.29.30.31.32.36."38".40.41.42.43.44.45.46.50.68"

between the initial number 19 and the initial number 38 there are 11 initials

the gematrical value of the initial (kha,ha,ya,ain,sad) is 195

the gematrical value of the initial (sad)  is 90

the operation (195+90) = 285 (19.15)

(285+19+38+11) = (2+8+5+1+9+3+8+1+1)= 38 (19.2) = (3+8)= 11[/colo*repetition

of the verse "Woe on that day to the rejectors"

*he verse "Woe on that day to the rejectors" is mentioned 11 times in the whole Quran as we have said .

-the numbers of the versets

"15.19.24.28.34.37.40.45.47.49"

-chapiter number "77"

-and also in the chapiter number "83" verse number"10"

*the operation

(1+1)+(1+5+1+9+2+4+8+3+4+3+7+4+0+4+5+4+7+4+9)+(7+7)+(1+0)+(8+3) = 114
(19.6) there're 114 chapter in the Quran .

La Elaha Ella Allah

Abd-Allah Mecherbet

Shalom

[Hati]

of the verse "Woe on that day to the rejectors"

*he verse "Woe on that day to the rejectors" is mentioned 11 times in the whole Quran as we have said .

-the numbers of the versets

"15.19.24.28.34.37.40.45.47.49"

-chapiter number "77"

-and also in the chapiter number "83" verse number"10"

[077:015]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:019]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:024]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:028]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:034]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:037]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:040]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:045]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:047]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:049]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[083:010]  Woe on that day to the rejecters,

  ويل يومئذ للمكذبين= 3030402070021050 106401700 61030

Verse numbers and GV:

8310 3030402070021050 106401700 61030 7749 3030402070021050 106401700 61030 7747 3030402070021050 106401700 61030 7745 3030402070021050 106401700 61030 7740 3030402070021050 106401700 61030 7737 3030402070021050 106401700 61030 7734 3030402070021050 106401700 61030 7728 3030402070021050 106401700 61030 7724 3030402070021050 106401700 61030 7719 3030402070021050 106401700 61030 7715   3030402070021050 106401700 61030         = 19 x 437384370537210637105823 ... 68684770535266370.0000

[Hati]

[077:015]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:019]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:024]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:028]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:034]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:037]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:040]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:045]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:047]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[077:049]  Woe on that day to the rejecters.

[083:010]  Woe on that day to the rejecters,


Connect the verse numbers from 77:15 to 83:10

Its a multiple of 19 if you place 1230 or 6003010805 at the end:

77 15 77 16 77 17 77 18 77 19 77 20 77 21 77 22 77 23 77 24 77 25 77 26 77 27 77 28 77 29 77 30 77 31 77 32 77 33 77 34 77 35 77 36 77 37 77 38 77 39 77 40 77 41 77 42 77 43 77 44 77 45 77 46 77 47 77 48 77 49 77 50 3850 1275 78 1 78 2 78 3 78 4 78 5 78 6 78 7 78 8 78 9 78 10 78 11 78 12 78 13 78 14 78 15 78 16 78 17 78 18 78 19 78 20 78 21 78 22 78 23 78 24 78 25 78 26 78 27 78 28 78 29 78 30 78 31 78 32 78 33 78 34 78 35 78 36 78 37 78 38 78 39 78 40 3120 820 79 1 79 2 79 3 79 4 79 5 79 6 79 7 79 8 79 9 79 10 79 11 79 12 79 13 79 14 79 15 79 16 79 17 79 18 79 19 79 20 79 21 79 22 79 23 79 24 79 25 79 26 79 27 79 28 79 29 79 30 79 31 79 32 79 33 79 34 79 35 79 36 79 37 79 38 79 39 79 40 79 41 79 42 79 43 79 44 79 45 79 46 3634 1081 80 1 80 2 80 3 80 4 80 5 80 6 80 7 80 8 80 9 80 10 80 11 80 12 80 13 80 14 80 15 80 16 80 17 80 18 80 19 80 20 80 21 80 22 80 23 80 24 80 25 80 26 80 27 80 28 80 29 80 30 80 31 80 32 80 33 80 34 80 35 80 36 80 37 80 38 80 39 80 40 80 41 80 42 3360 903 81 1 81 2 81 3 81 4 81 5 81 6 81 7 81 8 81 9 81 10 81 11 81 12 81 13 81 14 81 15 81 16 81 17 81 18 81 19 81 20 81 21 81 22 81 23 81 24 81 25 81 26 81 27 81 28 81 29 2349 435 82 1 82 2 82 3 82 4 82 5 82 6 82 7 82 8 82 9 82 10 82 11 82 12 82 13 82 14 82 15 82 16 82 17 82 18 82 19 1558 190 83 1 83 2 83 3 83 4 83 5 83 6 83 7 83 8 83 9 83 10
1230 = 19 x 40609324616 ... 1742170.0000


77 15 77 16 77 17 77 18 77 19 77 20 77 21 77 22 77 23 77 24 77 25 77 26 77 27 77 28 77 29 77 30 77 31 77 32 77 33 77 34 77 35 77 36 77 37 77 38 77 39 77 40 77 41 77 42 77 43 77 44 77 45 77 46 77 47 77 48 77 49 77 50 3850 1275 78 1 78 2 78 3 78 4 78 5 78 6 78 7 78 8 78 9 78 10 78 11 78 12 78 13 78 14 78 15 78 16 78 17 78 18 78 19 78 20 78 21 78 22 78 23 78 24 78 25 78 26 78 27 78 28 78 29 78 30 78 31 78 32 78 33 78 34 78 35 78 36 78 37 78 38 78 39 78 40 3120 820 79 1 79 2 79 3 79 4 79 5 79 6 79 7 79 8 79 9 79 10 79 11 79 12 79 13 79 14 79 15 79 16 79 17 79 18 79 19 79 20 79 21 79 22 79 23 79 24 79 25 79 26 79 27 79 28 79 29 79 30 79 31 79 32 79 33 79 34 79 35 79 36 79 37 79 38 79 39 79 40 79 41 79 42 79 43 79 44 79 45 79 46 3634 1081 80 1 80 2 80 3 80 4 80 5 80 6 80 7 80 8 80 9 80 10 80 11 80 12 80 13 80 14 80 15 80 16 80 17 80 18 80 19 80 20 80 21 80 22 80 23 80 24 80 25 80 26 80 27 80 28 80 29 80 30 80 31 80 32 80 33 80 34 80 35 80 36 80 37 80 38 80 39 80 40 80 41 80 42 3360 903 81 1 81 2 81 3 81 4 81 5 81 6 81 7 81 8 81 9 81 10 81 11 81 12 81 13 81 14 81 15 81 16 81 17 81 18 81 19 81 20 81 21 81 22 81 23 81 24 81 25 81 26 81 27 81 28 81 29 2349 435 82 1 82 2 82 3 82 4 82 5 82 6 82 7 82 8 82 9 82 10 82 11 82 12 82 13 82 14 82 15 82 16 82 17 82 18 82 19 1558 190 83 1 83 2 83 3 83 4 83 5 83 6 83 7 83 8 83 9 83 10
6003010805 = 19 x 4060932461 ... 421211095.0000

[Jim19]

Shalom , Peace , Asalaam Alaikoum Hati

[77:19] Woe on that day to the rejectors

و يل يومئد للمكدبين




this verse is mentioned in the Whole Quran 11 times
Chapter 77


[77:15] Woe on that day to the rejectors.

[77:19] Woe on that day to the rejectors.

[77:24] Woe on that day to the rejectors.

[77:28] Woe on that day to the rejectors.

[77:34] Woe on that day to the rejectors.

[77:37] Woe on that day to the rejectors.

[77:40] Woe on that day to the rejectors.

[77:45] Woe on that day to the rejectors.

[77:47] Woe on that day to the rejectors.

[77:49] Woe on that day to the rejectors.

Chapter 83

[83:10] Woe on that day to the rejectors.

the result

(7715 + 19 + 24 + 28 + 34 + 37 + 40 + 45 + 47 + 49 + ( 8310 ) +

11 = 16359 (19* 861 )

in the verse 11 chapter 83 Quran says [83:11] They do not believe in the Day of Judgment. why this verse is mentioned in verse 11 ?

the gematrical value of the verse Woe on that day to the rejectors. is 1694 this verse is mentioned in the verse 19 chapter 77

operation

( 1694 + 7719 + 11 ) = 9424 (19*496)

I have already published some works on forum  http://19.org/forum/index.php/t/7302/0/
by the way the Khalifa name it's the family name of the messenger Rashad ( Peace be upon him ) it's not corect to add the khalifa word because the code 19 is clear , the roots of the word Rashad is mentioned in the whole QURAN 19 TIME ? 2 : RASHAD ( Peacebeupon him) was named ny the angels , meant the most important it's the name of the messenger not his family name .

between the departure of the God's messenger Rashad ( Peace be upon him ) and the attack of 11/09/2001 there are 11 years ,

Abd-Allah Mecherbet

Shalom

[Bosnian Thinker]

On this issue of it relating to the 9/11 incident, I've never looked into this ideology. Personally, I think the whole "September 11th" issue was a huge conspiracy... But I won't even get into that.

 

I know, but I wouldn't get into this.