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themovement1:
Hawa can mean to rise & set. And we are talking about when it rises and sets with the sun, being the most likely time. How does it rise and set with the sun at 1:40 am? THe usn is neither rising nor setting at that time anywhere.

Godbless,
Anwar

savage_carrot:
Peace Anwar,

Forgive the intrusion but i have been trying to get in touch with you, the pm i sent you has been sitting in my outbox for 3 weeks now, and i even emailed you at the address you have on your profile...pls check it out, i had some imp ?'s to ask you.

Tia.

OberonSky:

--- Quote from: "themovement1" ---Hawa can mean to rise & set. And we are talking about when it rises and sets with the sun, being the most likely time. How does it rise and set with the sun at 1:40 am? THe usn is neither rising nor setting at that time anywhere.
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As is true of any star, Sirius is only visible between the time of its helical rising and setting. Conversely, it is invisible from the time of heliacal setting until its heliacal rising. The "heliacal rising" is the first day when the star rises and the Sun is far enough below the eastern horizon to make it visible in the morning twilight. In the same way, the "heliacal setting" is the last day when the star sets and the Sun is far enough below the western horizon to make the star visible in the evening twilight. This in not to be confused with what is called ?cosmic rising". In the latter case, it is not possible to see the star, due to the light of the Sun.

Therefore, the heliacal rising is NOT the same as the COSMIC rising  .. which is what you refer to

themovement1:
Yes, I am pointing to the Cosmic rising. These names Cosmic and Heliacal are merely names to try that have come about to classify the differences that occur in it's rising. The original Heliacal (Sun/Solar) rising woudl have best approximated when the star rose with the sun according to the limited resources of some of our ancients. Of course you could only consider teh heliacal rising when it became visible long ago. But once you could better estimate when it rose with the sun you no longer need a visible rising as you know when it is rising with the sun. So I think that the Cosmic is the rising that we need to focus on. That is really when Sirisu rising with the sun. Waiting until sirius is visible is a less accurate way of approximating an even that really can't be seen, though it can be accurately observed.

Godbless,
Anwar

youssef4342:
Peace be with you as well...
 thank you for sharing

i would also believe in the hot summer timing of ramadan

2) There is cited, a surah was REVEALED (Quran was revealed during Ramadan )...

3) this surah calls for fighting, and people have said "let us not mobilize in the HEAT" (9:81).


Do you see why this could be taken as ramadan being around the hottest time of the year, i.e the summer solstice for those in the northern hemisphere

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