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Qasim Abbas

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Help??Help??..from whom?
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2004, 08:33:23 PM »
Quote from: "PrinceZ?D"

I will indeed keep saying what I keep saying, and insha'allah one day you will realise that what I used to say was the truth. Hopy that day will not be too late for you to change your views and beliefs before you are thrown into hell fire:


So this is it! Now you have got Nuzobillah,  "knowledge of unseen" (ilmul ghaib) that in capacity of a sperm and clay made human being, you are deciding fate of people while on this earth! So how many people on this earth are "subject to being thrown n hell fire" according to your
"knowledge of unseen"? And who is on top of the list?

Truth, truth and truth that you used to say! Not referring to Holy Quran is truth? Look at 4:59 and then decide who comes first? Almighty or His Messenger (PBUH)? Then look at 53:4 and then decide Who is Who? Then you will come to know what is truth!

You poor Quran rejector!

It seems that you are approaching to the stage of revelation!  Bravo!


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Re: Help??Help??..from whom?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2018, 01:41:39 AM »
Masha Allah, there is great knowledge for me in this thread, thanks for sharing, may Allah bless on you.


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Re: Help??Help??..from whom?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2018, 10:17:18 PM »
Masha Allah, there is great knowledge for me in this thread, thanks for sharing, may Allah bless on you.

Salaam brother

Would you like to share what great knowledge appealed you in the thread?


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Re: Help??Help??..from whom?
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2018, 09:29:31 AM »

In very simple and brief terms, the basic tenet of Tawheed that every believer says is ‘There is no idol but He (Allah) 2:163, and yet Al-Quran declares that the majority of people who believe in Allah associates partners with Him (12:106). There are no idols but Allah therefore as soon as we start idolizing anyone (or any fascination/temptation/philosophy) besides Him, the problem starts.

The believers may be well able to avoid physical idols, however are they able to avoid psychological idols as well. Lets have a reality check with Ayas of the Book;

12: 106   وَمَا يُؤْمِنُ أَكْثَرُهُم بِاللَّهِ إِلَّا وَهُم مُّشْرِكُونَ

“And most of them do not believe with  Allah  without associating (other as partners) with Him!”

Are we holding on to some personalities believing that serving these personalities will bring us nearer to Allah because they are Allah’s beloved. Then please take heed of below Ayat:

39:3   أَلَا لِلَّهِ الدِّينُ الْخَالِصُ ۚ وَالَّذِينَ اتَّخَذُوا مِن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاءَ مَا نَعْبُدُهُمْ إِلَّا لِيُقَرِّبُونَا إِلَى اللَّهِ زُلْفَىٰ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَحْكُمُ بَيْنَهُمْ فِي مَا هُمْ فِيهِ يَخْتَلِفُونَ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِي مَنْ هُوَ كَاذِبٌ كَفَّارٌ

“Isn’t the Din (Judgment) purely for Allah ? But those who take protectors (Walis) besides Him (say). “We do-not serve them except that they are nearer to bring us closer to Allah.” Truly Allah will judge between them in what they differ. Verily Allah does not guide him who is a liar, kafir/rejector/coverer.”

And no one could rightfully be called for divine matters except for Allah.

31:30    ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْحَقُّ وَأَنَّ مَا يَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِهِ الْبَاطِلُ وَأَنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْكَبِيرُ

“That is because Allah is the Haq/Truth, and  whoever else they call other than Him is Falsehood; and indeed Allah,- He is the Most High, Most Great.”

If in someone praises and glorifies only Allah in a gathering, do we feel that some others/our favorites should  be gloried and remembered with Allah as praising Allah alone is not sufficient. If we feel that, then we should heed the below Ayat seriously:

39:45    وَإِذَا ذُكِرَ اللَّهُ وَحْدَهُ اشْمَأَزَّتْ قُلُوبُ الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْآخِرَةِ ۖ وَإِذَا ذُكِرَ الَّذِينَ مِن دُونِهِ إِذَا هُمْ يَسْتَبْشِرُونَ

“When Allah alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the hereafter, are filled with resentment. But when others are mentioned apart from Him, they begin to rejoice. “

Are we following/serving certain list of names for whom Allah has not revealed any authority in His Book, only because our surroundings and our forefathers have been doing the same. This is addressed in below Ayat;

53:23   إِنْ هِيَ إِلَّا أَسْمَاءٌ سَمَّيْتُمُوهَا أَنتُمْ وَآبَاؤُكُم مَّا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ بِهَا مِن سُلْطَانٍ ۚ إِن يَتَّبِعُونَ إِلَّا الظَّنَّ وَمَا تَهْوَى الْأَنفُسُ ۖ وَلَقَدْ جَاءَهُم مِّن رَّبِّهِمُ الْهُدَىٰ

“They are but Names you have named them, you and your fathers, Allah has sent down with it no authority. These people follow nothing but conjecture and what their souls desire; and surely the guidance has come to them from their Lord.”

The people who are called are just people like yourself. Allah has not allowed calling anyone as per below Ayat. Its only other people have made you believe that its rightful to call them.

7:194     إِنَّ الَّذِينَ تَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ عِبَادٌ أَمْثَالُكُمْ ۖ فَادْعُوهُمْ فَلْيَسْتَجِيبُوا لَكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ

“Verily those whom you call upon besides Allah are servants like you. Call upon them, and let them respond to you, if you are (indeed) truthful!”

Allah asks a question in below Ayat, that is Allah not sufficient for his servant?

39:36    أَلَيْسَ اللَّهُ بِكَافٍ عَبْدَهُ ۖ وَيُخَوِّفُونَكَ بِالَّذِينَ مِن دُونِهِ ۚ وَمَن يُضْلِلِ اللَّهُ فَمَا لَهُ مِنْ هَادٍ

“Is not Allah enough for his Servant? But they try to frighten you with others besides Him! for such as Allah leaves to stray, there can be no guide.”

Many people have great fascination with Golden words/Zukhrif al Qaul/Aqwale Zareen. They spend much effort in collection, remembrance, authentication of the same. The below Ayat states that doing it is like being enemy to the prophet:

6:112   وَكَذَٰلِكَ جَعَلْنَا لِكُلِّ نَبِيٍّ عَدُوًّا شَيَاطِينَ الْإِنسِ وَالْجِنِّ يُوحِي بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَىٰ بَعْضٍ زُخْرُفَ الْقَوْلِ غُرُورًا ۚ وَلَوْ شَاءَ رَبُّكَ مَا فَعَلُوهُ ۖ فَذَرْهُمْ وَمَا يَفْتَرُونَ

“And likewise ,We have made for every Prophet the satans of mankind and the satans of jin an enemy, they inspire golden words on one another, for the purpose of delusion, and if your Lord had willed they would have not done it, so leave them and what they have invented.”

98:5   وَمَا أُمِرُوا إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ مُخْلِصِينَ لَهُ الدِّينَ حُنَفَاءَ وَيُقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَيُؤْتُوا الزَّكَاةَ ۚ وَذَٰلِكَ دِينُ الْقَيِّمَةِ

“And they have not been commanded except to serve Allah purely in the Din/Judgment,  being true/focused; and to establish Prayers; and to give Zakat/justification; and that is the  rightly established Din/ Judgment.”

One of the idols mentioned in Al-Kitab is Sowaa i.e time period/Era.  We shouldn’t be stuck and fascinated with a particular period of time or people of some bygone era in order to avoid pitfall of personality worship, as per below Ayat:

2:141   تِلْكَ أُمَّةٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ ۖ لَهَا مَا كَسَبَتْ وَلَكُم مَّا كَسَبْتُمْ ۖ وَلَا تُسْأَلُونَ عَمَّا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ

“Those were the people that has passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did, and you of what you do! and you will not be questioned of what they did.”