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ayman:
This is an open message to all honest Code 19 discoverers.

We always hear about your amazing discoveries of Code 19 "precise mathematical miracle" usually followed by a self congratulory "praise the lord" or "allahu akbar".

How come we never hear about your failures (followed by "darn it" or whatever)?

I have a theory and I hope that you would honestly help me see if it is true or not. My theory is that for every success celebrated, there are 18 failures that are never mentioned.

Now, if you are using a computer program then you have to be careful because a program that presents you with the successful results is in fact masking the failures. For example, if your program goes through iterations or loops, then please keep track of how many loops it went through until it achieved the result. This can be easily done by adding a counter to the loop and displaying the count with the result. So for example, if the program went through 19 loops to get the 1 successful result then you know that you had 18 failures and you can post them here on this thread.

This thread is not for debating Code 19. The thread should speak for itself. If honest Code 19 discoverers share their failures then we would be able to see the success to failure ratio without need for a debate. If no one shares their failures then the question of "how come we never hear about your failures?" still stands. I hope that everyone can see that my request is reasonable.

MODERATORS: Please make this a sticky subject so that we can see how many honest Code 19 discoverers will respond so that we can put this issue to rest once and for all.

Peace,

Ayman

Hati:
Salam,

"...their number We have appointed only as a trial for the unbelievers..."[74:31]

The Unbelievers (Sura 109):

109 1 109 2 109 3 109 4 109 5 109 6  654 21  1230 = 19 x 5742680057532074260584034432170.0000

The above is easily found because I already have in mind to put append 1230 to the sura numbers and their sum.

On the other hand if I just want to experiment to find a four digit number from 1000 to 9999, in each experiment how many trials will I make to
make a first hit on 1230?

I ll make 19 experiments using MS Excel VBA as follows:

Private Sub CommandButton1_Click()
Const a = 1000
Const b = 9999
Dim i, N As Integer
Dim X As Double
N = 1
While N < 20
i = 1
X = 0
While X <> 1230
X = Rnd() * (b - a) + a
X = CInt(X)
Cells(N, "b").Value = i
i = i + 1
Wend
N = N + 1
Wend
End Sub

And the result after one run is:

Experiment   No. of trials
Number    for first hit on 1230
1   6783
2   6497
3   821
4   17102
5   11491
6   8279
7   4217
8   34232
9   576
10   4048
11   5926
12   6397
13   20342
14   4707
15   15494
16   10405
17   8351
18   4328
19   15147

God bless you

Hati

ayman:
Peace Hati and all HONEST Code 19 discoverers,

Are you trying to say that in all your trials you easily got a 19 divisible on every single trial because you already had in mind to append 1230 (or some number) to a sura number and their sum. You NEVER EVER tried to add instead of append, etc., etc.?

Hati, this thread is not about your successes. You have already well publicized those in other places. Are you trying to tell us that you NEVER had a single failed trial?

Peace,

Ayman

Hati:

--- Quote ---Peace Hati and all HONEST Code 19 discoverers,

Are you trying to say that in all your trials you easily got a 19 divisible on every single trial because you already had in mind to append 1230 (or some number) to a sura number and their sum. You NEVER EVER tried to add instead of append, etc., etc.?

Hati, this thread is not about your successes. You have already well publicized those in other places. Are you trying to tell us that you NEVER had a single failed trial?

Peace,

Ayman
--- End quote ---

Salam Ayman,

That is only because Rshad claim his number is 1230.
But to the contrary in first the experiment, I got thru 6783 trials before I hit 1230. That means I have 6782 errors! In the second 6496 errors before I got 1230....

Experiment   No. of trials
Number    for first hit on 1230
1   6783
2   6497
...

So its not the first hit.  The longer it takes if the numbers are generated manually. That s why 74:31 warns us that their number is a trial...

God bless you.

Hati

Hati:

Salam Ayman,

I think you need reaction from the Code 19 people. Because the verses I used includes 9128 and 9129. They dont accept this inclusion.

God bless you.