Peace Ayman: You forgot to response!

[Bahman]

Peace everybody
Although this forum is moderated by those that believe in God Alone but Quran as notion  not alone I have no choice when I am engaged to my past discussions and some time I have to update those.
Being so long member of this forum like many others our asset which is our opinion  are more voluble than articles which is one side story.
As far as we are active on the line we have no choice unless to join this forum which its moderation is not done completely by those that believe in God Alone Quran Alone.
However  I do not want to be banned again but I am back to clear some cases and may this time we clean this forum from those nonsense claims by showing them clear and solid proof.

Today March 14-2008 when I was doing house cleaning on my pc I found that following post is not responded by
 I am learning and have asked Ayman for assistance but no response .
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12253.msg107794#msg107794
 
I appreciate anybody examining it and response .
 
here is complete data related to 74:31.
http://y19.net/74-31.htm
Peace.

[RasulHamsa]

Thank you for your contributions but it seems people are not interested in buying this stuff any more. Changing the product or wrapper can help.

[Bahman]

Peace Messenger Hamza :

Thank you for your contributions

I have contributing these forum and others long time. Thank you for your concern.

but it seems people are not interested in buying this stuff any more.

Who are those people and how you know this , may have been an election here since my absent and you have been chosen as delegate for them . 

Changing the product or wrapper can help.

I check few of your recent posts, you should ]read Quran more carefully and act like a believer.
Did you read this phrase on my post?:
“I appreciate anybody examining it and response .”
Are you able to examine it?
The product is 74:31 and can not be changed are you  the wrapper? You can ask a Ayman to help you. There is no Hamza and no Alief just numbers. Can you understand or you follow what you parent did. ?
 Peace.

[RasulHamsa]

I am told you are an old man, full respect sir, Love19, yo!... 

[aalmakto]

Peace Bahman,
RasulHamsa is only playing with you. Don't take his jokes seriously.

[Hati]

Salam Bahman,

Maybe related to 74:31 is 31 74
  I tried sura  and verse nmbers and their sums from Sura 31 to Sura 74. Its a multiple of 19.

31-74

31 1 31 2 31 3 31 4 31 5 31 6 31 7 31 8 31 9 31 10 31 11 31 12 31 13 31 14 31 15 31 16 31 17 31 18 31 19 31 20 31 21 31 22 31 23 31 24 31 25 31 26 31 27 31 28 31 29 31 30 31 31 31 32 31 33 31 34 1054 59532  1 32 2 32 3 32 4 32 5 32 6 32 7 32 8 32 9 32 10 32 11 32 12 32 13 32 14 32 15 32 16 32 17 32 18 32 19 32 20 32 21 32 22 32 23 32 24 32 25 32 26 32 27 32 28 32 29 32 30   960 465 33 1 33 2 33 3 33 4 33 5 33 6 33 7 33 8 33 9 33 10 33 11 33 12 33 13 33 14 33 15 33 16 33 17 33 18 33 19 33 20 33 21 33 22 33 23 33 24 33 25 33 26 33 27 33 28 33 29 33 30 33 31 33 32 ...    73 17 73 18 73 19 73 20 1460 210 74 1 74 2 74 3 74 4 74 5 74 6 74 7 74 8 74 9 74 10 74 11 74 12 74 13 74 14 74 15 74 16 74 17 74 18 74 19 74 20 74 21 74 22 74 23 74 24 74 25 74 26 74 27 74 28 74 29 74 30 74 31 74 32 74 33 74 34 74 35 74 36 74 37 74 38 74 39 74 40 74 41 74 42 74 43 74 44 74 45 74 46 74 47 74 48 74 49 74 50 74 51 74 52 74 53 74 54 74 55 74 56 4144 1596 = 19 x 1638485859549027980617464838479111121643743848121659534900911149010164226954274901226970065954016459541217332264805954332280596897610280069595964438175069859385753738532274332701691748174822745958859049063327438012222801280133277011964359594380576866596385912280754491386175702070054374384859543849648175349114385175364905437 ... 24077235657236705828482848811249551271442986409167758933793379864354861802496091719698812039103910917460172333549197030229865144414441970565482864602302340760918249724973023670793395655407651291971355033760084.0000

[Bahman]

Salam Hati:
You are blessed and shelling me with so many Googol^100, today 19 of September , as I wrote in other post I will write full report of today which was ended with your discoveries.
Moon has had a role in today incidents and now I checked the time  writing this post as draft Sept 19-2008 hour 23:59.
Age of moon -15 days 21 hrs 19 min.
Please tell us how many digits there and may you send your spread sheet or file to me .
Ayman :
Is time to reconsider your articles rejecting Code 19 Miracle and brother Layth is responsible for publishing articles trying to confuse uniformed truth seekers too.
You finding adding to previous one and if I am happy to see our work has links as is support of God for believers.
I am very far to be called submitter but I can claim that I am believer in words of God in Qurane Alone based on superhuman numerical and textual structure design.
God Bless
Bahman

[Hati]

Salam Bahman,

Heres the date. Thank you so much for pointing to the date. May Allah bless you. I found the following:

April 19, 2008  = 4-19-2008

4192008 = 19 x 220632.0000 = 19 x 348 x 634
         
[003:048]  And He will teach him the Book, the Wisdom, the Torah, the Gospel,
[006:034]  Messengers indeed were cried lies to before thee, yet they endured patiently that they were cried lies to, and were hurt, until Our help came unto them. No man can change the words of God; and there has already come to thee some tiding of the Envoys.


3:48 - 6:34

3 48 3 49 3 50 3 51 3 52 3 53 3 54 3 55 3 56 3 57 3 58 3 59 3 60 3 61 3 62 3 63 3 64 3 65 3 66 3 67 3 68 3 69 3 70 3 71 3 72 3 73 3 74 3 75 3 76 3 77 3 78 3 79 3 80 3 81 3 82 3 83 3 84 3 85 3 86 3 87 3 88 3 89 3 90 3 91 3 92 3 93 3 94 3 95 3 96 3 97 3 98 3 99 3 100 3 101 3 102 3 103 3 104 3 105 3 106 3 107 3 108 3 109 3 110 3 111 3 112 3 113 3 114 3 115 3 116 3 117 3 118 3 119 3 120 3 121 3 122 3 123 3 124 3 125 3 126 3 127 3 128 3 129 3 130 3 131 3 132 3 133 3 134 3 135 3 136 3 137 3 138 3 139 3 140 3 141 3 142 3 143 3 144 3 145 3 146 3 147 3 148 3 149 3 150 3 151 3 152 3 153 3 154 3 155 3 156 3 157 3 158 3 159 3 160 3 161 3 162 3 163 3 164 3 165 3 166 3 167 3 168 3 169 3 170 3 171 3 172 3 173 3 174 3 175 3 176 3 177 3 178 3 179 3 180 3 181 3 182 3 183 3 184 3 185 3 186 3 187 3 188 3 189 3 190 3 191 3 192 3 193 3 194 3 195 3 196 3 197 3 198 3 199 3 200 60020100 4 1 4 2 4 3 4 4 4 5 4 6 4 7 4 8 4 9 4 10 4 11 4 12 4 13 4 14 4 15 4 16 4 17 4 18 4 19 4 20 4 21 4 22 4 23 4 24 4 25 4 26 4 27 4 28 4 29 4 30 4 31 4 32 4 33 4 34 4 35 4 36 4 37 4 38 4 39 4 40 4 41 4 42 4 43 4 44 4 45 4 46 4 47 4 48 4 49 4 50 4 51 4 52 4 53 4 54 4 55 4 56 4 57 4 58 4 59 4 60 4 61 4 62 4 63 4 64 4 65 4 66 4 67 4 68 4 69 4 70 4 71 4 72 4 73 4 74 4 75 4 76 4 77 4 78 4 79 4 80 4 81 4 82 4 83 4 84 4 85 4 86 4 87 4 88 4 89 4 90 4 91 4 92 4 93 4 94 4 95 4 96 4 97 4 98 4 99 4 100 4 101 4 102 4 103 4 104 4 105 4 106 4 107 4 108 4 109 4 110 4 111 4 112 4 113 4 114 4 115 4 116 4 117 4 118 4 119 4 120 4 121 4 122 4 123 4 124 4 125 4 126 4 127 4 128 4 129 4 130 4 131 4 132 4 133 4 134 4 135 4 136 4 137 4 138 4 139 4 140 4 141 4 142 4 143 4 144 4 145 4 146 4 147 4 148 4 149 4 150 4 151 4 152 4 153 4 154 4 155 4 156 4 157 4 158 4 159 4 160 4 161 4 162 4 163 4 164 4 165 4 166 4 167 4 168 4 169 4 170 4 171 4 172 4 173 4 174 4 175 4 17670415576 5 1 5 2 5 3 5 4 5 5 5 6 5 7 5 8 5 9 5 10 5 11 5 12 5 13 5 14 5 15 5 16 5 17 5 18 5 19 5 20 5 21 5 22 5 23 5 24 5 25 5 26 5 27 5 28 5 29 5 30 5 31 5 32 5 33 5 34 5 35 5 36 5 37 5 38 5 39 5 40 5 41 5 42 5 43 5 44 5 45 5 46 5 47 5 48 5 49 5 50 5 51 5 52 5 53 5 54 5 55 5 56 5 57 5 58 5 59 5 60 5 61 5 62 5 63 5 64 5 65 5 66 5 67 5 68 5 69 5 70 5 71 5 72 5 73 5 74 5 75 5 76 5 77 5 78 5 79 5 80 5 81 5 82 5 83 5 84 5 85 5 86 5 87 5 88 5 89 5 90 5 91 5 92 5 93 5 94 5 95 5 96 5 97 5 98 5 99 5 100 5 101 5 102 5 103 5 104 5 105 5 106 5 107 5 108 5 109 5 110 5 111 5 112 5 113 5 114 5 115 5 116 5 117 5 118 5 119 5 120 5 121 5 122 5 123 615 7626 6 1 6 2 6 3 6 4 6 5 6 6 6 7 6 8 6 9 6 10 6 11 6 12 6 13 6 14 6 15 6 16 6 17 6 18 6 19 6 20 6 21 6 22 6 23 6 24 6 25 6 26 6 27 6 28 6 29 6 30 6 31 6 32 6 33 6 34 348 = 19 x 18334176334281702808123966124071492597913755913861282387703545703651072177493335493440861967283125283230651757072915073020441546862704862810231336652494652595264790163279491107531858454267005700575321216384801638584963764798058805885852269490112169638069075329111911196383322595422700691174385860165016506914375700733231744279696391218121817445428806043762797385006922271227127976481911354293850490317453324332438507535016664824903595627984377437749038588121975355956700938515430543059569641227285887009806249046483648370100694332596418062911559577536753680631894842633759176023928814996896902170596917975875881149575896954854860128554875933833839107533854912812818086512833891791797065491812870770776044470791849749755023449770828728734002428749807707712981407728786686691960386707765665670939365686744644649918344665723623628897323644702602607876302623681105479021591633373916344266531968991636532126902164427021654797585074302167585232212695480126965328638179612698638337523226533232275859691284923229691442833757586337586390744390233760744548144288639442896921797495544291797653454819692548207452850600854822850758765350745653517983903706165353903864075881798773902935008028181871882031321321848691323429219219746589221327117117644487119225015015542385017122912913440282915020810811338180812918708709236078710816606607133976608714504505031874506612402402929772404510300300827670302408198198725568200306096096623466098203993994521363996101891892419261893999742132113211847553181634479290039530795237423742900658492165532395350061848342734273953763802696639875085066507714035624716347979611242874506137769401032664295927559190822454085717348980612243875492.0000

[Hati]

18334176334281702808123966124071492597913755913861282387703545703651072177493335493440861967283125283230651757072915073020441546862704862810231336652494652595264790163279491107531858454267005700575321216384801638584963764798058805885852269490112169638069075329111911196383322595422700691174385860165016506914375700733231744279696391218121817445428806043762797385006922271227127976481911354293850490317453324332438507535016664824903595627984377437749038588121975355956700938515430543059569641227285887009806249046483648370100694332596418062911559577536753680631894842633759176023928814996896902170596917975875881149575896954854860128554875933833839107533854912812818086512833891791797065491812870770776044470791849749755023449770828728734002428749807707712981407728786686691960386707765665670939365686744644649918344665723623628897323644702602607876302623681105479021591633373916344266531968991636532126902164427021654797585074302167585232212695480126965328638179612698638337523226533232275859691284923229691442833757586337586390744390233760744548144288639442896921797495544291797653454819692548207452850600854822850758765350745653517983903706165353903864075881798773902935008028181871882031321321848691323429219219746589221327117117644487119225015015542385017122912913440282915020810811338180812918708709236078710816606607133976608714504505031874506612402402929772404510300300827670302408198198725568200306096096623466098203993994521363996101891892419261893999742132113211847553181634479290039530795237423742900658492165532395350061848342734273953763802696639875085066507714035624716347979611242874506137769401032664295927559190822454085717348980612243875492 92 = 19 x 96495664917272120042757716442481539989019767967690959935281819492900379881543871018109799827805922543319219774067974068528639720330025593738059666592077118922446264017260479513325570811931608950396427454656850729394546130516098978346590892053221945463521449100589006296754329449593161532496767685079034246917766845964377601472086269569062197081204242335593670447404854059090147244641638706809739422723438549118097408079035078025808398042023039146047571516431449241877373360607529173997734953827820457946348679192019201947898391224191674015323997776509229898062604434914521979073309552615246853529457463030925690260925773446604526992394083862283363723862394277962200455330704693641037186799015109319873918267325524998710649735635940677547381203946356356384112672256772035220844140567187714057575608877603392894307077188019071731038545498434750567770013808847923573797850701967980759297536678903350169088958760142219235776763548958776764380066818316457712255990419014203359671174876490696188735217289069629954962282934664934665214444159125056550253390992839173141693671029180483145544499051013411618172897899235909740835607109187650094652124769291336336126715167361967910184252779904588852796428009729954333837995893403101164879563777076247995921131660749394826962699544422541658004267428095688489045835311768835320087403195441982151128971079115128982170538962788275813212106846461422644253674730134569475295242613807716306336810497480863137378378381154009968419695432174799197648324391996263365951553881177594213992064029117870263483412330180389230335803666525658342455303758082235349199892690751971084935628426487706820671364162223442556407099897959178292068.0000

[Bahman]

183341763342817028081...
19x

Peace 
Please little note what is that?
peace.

[ayman]

Peace Bahman,

Ayman:
Is time to reconsider your articles rejecting Code 19 Miracle and brother Layth is responsible for publishing articles trying to confuse uniformed truth seekers too.

Thank you for remembering me Bahman. If my article doesn’t make sense then by all means feel free to post here a logical paragraph by paragraph critique that shreds it to pieces. I am sure that this will help more people see the truth.

I am not sure what you mean by “articles” because I only have one article on Code 19. The other article is not mine because Edip also contributed greatly to it. In fact, it is not even an article. It is a debate between Edip and me. Why would you want to remove a debate on Code 19 where Edip, a respected reformer and one of the past code’s champions, is one of the two sides?

At any rate, the article and the debate have been posted on Free-Minds and on various forums for a few years now and no one was able to find anything wrong with what I said in them. If you are able to do this, then I would be grateful.

As for your post and the link on your web site, I didn’t find there anything that addresses any of the points I made in the thread that you refer to. Here are links to those posts so that you don’t have to look again for them:

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12253.msg107698#msg107698

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12253.msg107622#msg107622

Peace,

Ayman

[OPF]

Peace 
Please little note what is that?
peace.

Numbers are supposed to inform, not confuse.

[Nun de plume]

I appreciate anybody examining it and response .
 
here is complete data related to 74:31.
http://y19.net/74-31.htm
Peace.

6401370305011908213050120013014030205640137030501704400540...6401510130130700202001030302600200=

19x3369142265795741164763221059481068529284282647632476000...0863237375270036852736896331715800

Check your work...

http://rabbit.eng.miami.edu/students/cnocito/index.html

6401370305011908213050120013014030205640137030501704400540...6401510130130700202001030302600200=

THE ANSWER IS:
19x1216260357952262560479522802472665739071626035795323836...1628692472483303838019575749403800


Regardless, 1/19 = 0.0526315789 x infinity = infinity!

Thus 5% or about 300 verses will probably be a multiple of 19 while 6,000 verses will probably not be a multiple of 19.

Heres the date. Thank you so much for pointing to the date. May Allah bless you. I found the following:

April 19, 2008  = 4-19-2008

4192008 = 19 x 220632.0000 = 19 x 348 x 634
         
[003:048]  And He will teach him the Book, the Wisdom, the Torah, the Gospel,
[006:034]  Messengers indeed were cried lies to before thee, yet they endured patiently that they were cried lies to, and were hurt, until Our help came unto them. No man can change the words of God; and there has already come to thee some tiding of the Envoys.

You forgot to include...

http://islamawakened.org/quran/34/8/
http://islamawakened.org/quran/63/4/

4192008 = 19 x 220632.0000 = 19 x 87 x 2536
http://islamawakened.org/quran/8/7/
http://islamawakened.org/quran/25/36/

4192008 = 19 x 220632.0000 = 19 x 174 x 1268
http://islamawakened.org/quran/17/4/
http://islamawakened.org/quran/12/68/

4192008 = 19 x 220632.0000 = 19 x 317 x 696

http://islamawakened.org/quran/3/17/
http://islamawakened.org/quran/31/7/
http://islamawakened.org/quran/6/96/
http://islamawakened.org/quran/69/6/

There’s more although the point is clear, April 19, 2008 is no different than today or any other day which 5% of all dates will most probably be a multiple of 19 next being...6092008 = 19 x 320632 = June 9, 2008

More to impress the naïve...

UFO April 21, 2008 Phoenix Red Lights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPoqpaI5QkQ

Peace

[Hati]

Salam Nun,

There’s more although the point is clear, April 19, 2008 is no different than today or any other day which 5% of all dates will most probably be a multiple of 19 next being...6092008 = 19 x 320632 = June 9, 2008

Thanks for the info.

God bless you

Hati

[Bahman]

Thank you for remembering me Bahman. If my article doesn’t make sense then by all means feel free to post here a logical paragraph by paragraph critique that shreds it to pieces. I am sure that this will help more people see the truth.

I am not sure what you mean by “articles” because I only have one article on Code 19. The other article is not mine because Edip also contributed greatly to it. In fact, it is not even an article. It is a debate between Edip and me. Why would you want to remove a debate on Code 19 where Edip, a respected reformer and one of the past code’s champions, is one of the two sides?

You are right about article .  They are discussion and one of them is chosen to be on list of FM .
Generally you have rejected existence of code and in following you are trying to show how a WAW can change the meaning.

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12253.msg107622#msg107622
Please read 74:30-31 carefully. You will see no "and" after "only as a test for disbelievers". So this counting of 19 is ONLY a test for the disbelievers.

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12253.msg107794#msg107794

In above link I wrote:

Peace everybody

74:31 has been pondered more than any verse on this forum and 19.org too
Ayman rejection for existence any code 19 in Qur An  is not new but his claim for removing ?and? from translation and showing such thing do no exist in Arabic text is new.
As usual such case challenged me to see if there is a numerical message based on code by letters GV. But prior to conclusion I would like to check my work . I am sure Ayman would help me.
GW may be something in this attempt.

But you never responded as after while I wrote:

As you notice nobody assisted me to examine my work up to now.

At any rate, the article and the debate have been posted on Free-Minds and on various forums for a few years now and no one was able to find anything wrong with what I said in them. If you are able to do this, then I would be grateful.

It is not a pace or shred is whole work of you anywhere. Now we have pure numerical miracle and time for confusing truth seekers playing with letters and their vowels changing meaning  of phrase is over. 
It is time you reconsider your approach to code 19 when is so simple that believe me your primary school student would understand it easily but father with math PHD is no able to produce even one.

I wanted to show you how the verse you argue about its meaning is multiple of 19.  AND  now we have a new truth seeker with loads of discoveries which have to be checked and be examined .
But simply he discovered how mirroring of verse with so many digits is multiple of 10
These 2 verses are in group of 57  too
http://y19.net/halfQ.html
Peace