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Hello All,
I am new to this site. I found it during a google search looking for forums to meet like minded people. God willing I will make some friends here. However, in my short time going through a number of the posts I am not certain how many of you will agree with me.
I am probably one of a very very small select few. I’ve always believed in God. However, my father is racist and very dogmatic about his Judaism. Hence I never really connected with it as I felt if there is a God, why should one religion and its people be better than another as he claims? As soon as I left home to be on my own I became a non practicing Jew.
About 25 years ago while attending college in upstate NY, I was walking with my professor to his car and noticed his vanity license plate. “ON IT 19” I asked what the meaning of this was and that was my introduction to God’s miracle. It was easy to comprehend. The odds of so many numbers, many of them hundreds or several thousand digits long (numbers which we have no name for) all divisible by 19. This blew my mind. To me, there is 0 chance that this could be coincidence. This book , indeed had to come from God. I believe it is God’s word down to the last letter. This also means that I believe verses 128 and 129 of Sura 9 are false verses. I know a lot of you many not agree with me. This also means I do not invoke Muhammad in my Salat prayers.
Even though I knew of this awesome miracle it was not until 12 years later that I actually came upon some hard times and turned to God and the Quran for support. It was the first time that read it. It moved me to tears. It made so much sense. However, I was not a true a submitter. I did not do my prayers with regularity. I still drank alcohol socially, as well as other behaviors that God would not be pleased with. This went on for 13 years.
Recently I have come across some hardships again and have turned to God and the Quran again for support. I have embraced Islam fully and am conducting myself in the best possible manner with God’s guidance. I am probably the only Submitter in my home state of Maine. I cannot go to any of the Mosque’s here and pray as they are not Submitting Mosques. I’m also probably one of very few people raised Jewish who converted to the true Islam. I feel very blessed by this and thank God for guiding me in the right path.
Feel to free to contact me if you would like.
Peace to all of you.
Bob
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[74:30] Over it is nineteen
[6:59] He knows everything on land and in the sea. Not a leaf falls without His knowledge. Nor is there a grain in the depths of the soil. Nor is there anything wet or dry, that is not recorded in a profound record.
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 03:55:40 PM » |
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Bob~
may God bless you and reward you, brother. i am also a Quran-alone Muslim from new England with a racist, strict Jewish father. what are the odds?!
i am actually going to be back in NH for a few weeks coming up, God willing. where in Maine are you?
peace~ grace hanifa
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 04:24:06 PM » |
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Wow!....I bet we have A LOT to talk about!!
The odds are probably not as great as the miracle of 19 but pretty darn close! LOL
I look forward to learning about your upbringing and how you came to be a Submitter.
Peace and Love,
Bob
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[74:30] Over it is nineteen
[6:59] He knows everything on land and in the sea. Not a leaf falls without His knowledge. Nor is there a grain in the depths of the soil. Nor is there anything wet or dry, that is not recorded in a profound record.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2007, 05:42:28 PM » |
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Salam Bob. Welcome to the forum  Wow, a jew. Mashallah. I don't think there are many jews in this forum. I agree code 19 is a fact. But i'm still not sure of the verses being false, so i won't reject them yet. I'm must read take a further research. But with no doubt i know that quran has a numerical system in it. But don't focus to much on the code and stuff. It is the message and knowledge, and gods-system that is most important. You can buy the quran reformist translation at amazon.com. by the way. I bought it a few weeks ago, and it is the best translation i have read until now. I hope you will share your knowledge and thoughts with us at free-minds. Peace and Respect David |
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A man convinced against his own will, is of the same opinion still - Anonymous. Do not be that man!
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2007, 06:49:50 PM » |
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Thank you for your reply David. No...I am not focusing on the numbers. I merely believe it as proof that the Quran is indeed authored by God. The only copy I have been reading is Dr. Khalifa's translation. It has been enough for me. If God wills that I read other translations, I will be open to that. I look forward to having conversations with other Submitters, God willing.
Peace,
Bob
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[6:59] He knows everything on land and in the sea. Not a leaf falls without His knowledge. Nor is there a grain in the depths of the soil. Nor is there anything wet or dry, that is not recorded in a profound record.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2007, 10:04:51 PM » |
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Thank you for your reply David. No...I am not focusing on the numbers. I merely believe it as proof that the Quran is indeed authored by God. The only copy I have been reading is Dr. Khalifa's translation. It has been enough for me. If God wills that I read other translations, I will be open to that. I look forward to having conversations with other Submitters, God willing.
Shalom,
Bob
Peace. Welcome Bob! I think my mothers side was Jewish (way way back), but then converted to Christianity...still not too sure on the details since there was alot of false names and changing of names to German names etc. But I know when I read about the verses about code 19, I definitely felt my faith increase drastically there is a you tube video that goes into the number 19 in creation. It was interesting It talked about something to the effect the earth, moon, and sun are in alignment only once every 19 years or something like that God willing you can find the you tube video or I can and God willing post it here YTV |
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2007, 03:29:55 AM » |
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As Salaamu Alaikum wa RaHmatullaahi wa Barakaatuhu,
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2007, 06:21:36 PM » |
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Peace Bob Thank you for sharing with us Peace, Nyma |
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2007, 12:56:52 AM » |
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Salam to i believe, Praise to God, another brother that had been shed the light from Allah. I pray for your success and may God give us blessing. Do u mind if i ask u what the Jews think about Muslim? Especially those muslims at Palestine? At my place we've been bombarded with Jews are evil n stuff, tho i think they also wanted to uphold their ideals. What do u think? Peace be upon us  |
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2007, 02:59:50 PM » |
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Salam to i believe, Praise to God, another brother that had been shed the light from Allah. I pray for your success and may God give us blessing. Do u mind if i ask u what the Jews think about Muslim? Especially those muslims at Palestine? At my place we've been bombarded with Jews are evil n stuff, tho i think they also wanted to uphold their ideals. What do u think? Peace be upon us Peace. You should watch the CNN special entitled "God's warriors" it seems to indicate how the three "major" religions in the world seem to believe alot of the same things. and this even clarifies my position further. Organized religion under the guise of any name can be quite dangerous. YTV |
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2007, 03:06:01 PM » |
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Salam to i believe, Praise to God, another brother that had been shed the light from Allah. I pray for your success and may God give us blessing. Do u mind if i ask u what the Jews think about Muslim? Especially those muslims at Palestine? At my place we've been bombarded with Jews are evil n stuff, tho i think they also wanted to uphold their ideals. What do u think? Peace be upon us Salaam Fadhli, I am just one person and cannot speak for all Jews. In my humble opinion I feel it varies greatly from person to person, community to community, even sect to sect. Like Islam as well as other religions, there are many sects of Judaism, each practicing in a different manner. The Hasidic Jews don't consider anyone else a true Jew, not even practicing Orthodox Jews like some members of my family. It is generally accepted that the Jews and the Arabs have been at odds for centuries. I feel this is Satan doing what Satan does best...dividing people and taking as many of them to tell Hell as he can. Jews are not evil, it's people who have been duped by Satan who are evil no matter what religion they are. I try and treat everyone like a brother or sister, in the best possible manner, no matter what religion they are until someone does me wrong, then I turn away not to deal with them anymore. There is no reason to do otherwise because I am commanded by God to do so. Peace |
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2007, 01:43:42 AM » |
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Yup you're right bro... it's the people who's been duped by satan that's evil... I guess the core of the problem is the people who are making groups of themselves and upholding their ideals. And worst, using God's and the Prophet's/ Messanger's name... may God guide them.. Peace n Hug  |
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2007, 03:36:26 PM » |
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Peace. As I said before I would try to get the video about code 19 in quran and creation. So here it goes. which by the way is made by a SUNNI. Interestng indeed. Here is the link: God willing it will work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neQMzSCvP_4YTV |
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2007, 07:56:47 PM » |
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Peace and welcome I Believe, Yusuf Ali
17:108 "And they say: 'Glory to our Lord! Truly has the promise of our Lord been fulfilled!'"
17:109 They fall down on their faces in tears, and it increases their (earnest) humility.
17:110 Say: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."
17:111 Say: "Praise be to Allah, who begets no son, and has no partner in (His) dominion: Nor (needs) He any to protect Him from humiliation: yea, magnify Him for His greatness and glory!" I personally do not deny nor accept the 19, but I will admit that it is a magnificent piece of discovery. Praise God. Peace |
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[16:79]Do they not see the birds committed to fly in the atmosphere of the sky? No-one holds them up in the air except Allah. This should be (sufficient) proof for people who believe.
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2007, 05:31:08 PM » |
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Salam Bob,
Search for God and He will lead you - even if it takes 25 years!
My heart is lightened by reading your post and that of the others who have found their way to God...Truly He is the Lord of the Universe!
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