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True Nature of Quran
« on: September 21, 2007, 04:11:28 PM »
Quran is not at all a good detailed and consistent book to study because stories are concise, patched up and often inaccurately and inconsistently repeated and spread out at various stages throughout. This is due to its compilation process from fragmented pieces and orations collected from various parchments from various locations and pieced together and then completely modified and enhanced. Several people were involved in this process and in those days they had no means to proof-read. It is for this very reason, why Muslims are having a tough time understanding it and the obvious heated disagreements amongst them and all others.

In Islam especially, priesthood is the grandiosity of their holy book blanketing Reality. It is like dark clouds over earth cutting off from outside world. It does not give you space to think, reason and excel. In one instance it tells you to verify information, to reflect upon the signs of heavens and earth, to recall and remember past events while on the other, it commands you to strictly obey nothing other than the silly laws, threats and proclamations it states within. Islam thrives upon enforcing vestigial (degenerated), immature, dangerous and often misunderstood Quranic exercises, let alone God's words. This is obviously a major disease in Islam that needs severely dealt with.

The punishment for thievery is to cut their hands (5:38), the punishment for disorderly conduct of a wife is to beat her up (4:34) or lock her up until death do her apart (4:15), the punishment for adultery is lashing them out a 100 (24:2), the punishment for accusing married women for adultery is 80 lashes (24:4), the punishment for disbelief in God is to sever hands and feet on alternate sides or crucify them on palm trees or to test and outcast the other as to who is better in torturing (20:71, 7:124), and to find them wherever they are, seize them, slay them and torture them (4:89), and give them hellish drinks with painful punishment (6:70, 10:4), clothes of fire and hellish drinks poured over their heads (22:19, 44:48), and hellish drinks and bitter food (38:57), and abide in hellfire forever with hellish drinks that tear apart intestines (47:15), and eat from trees of bitterness filling bellies topping with boiling hellish water and drinking like camels (56:52-55), and fuelled with people and rocks in hellfire (2:24, 66:6), and hell filled with communities of humans and jinns getting roasted (7:38, 7:179, 11:119, 32:13), and skins are burnt repeatedly with new ones (4:56), and those who refuse to fight along with Muhammad are also thrown in hell (8:16), and disbelievers will be piled on top of each other and thrown in hell (8:37), and beaten up by angels on faces and rear-ends (8:50), and gold and silver will be heated to burn foreheads, sides and backs (9:35), and when hell cools down it increases again (17:97), people will neither die nor stay alive in hell (20:74), anyone criticizing/challenging the Quran will also abide in hell (22:51), and people with the slightest disbelief/light-hearted will incur hell forever (23:103), children and adults following their parents will also abide in hell (31:21), people who try to leave hell will be forced back (32:20), and friends will be seen in hell (37:55), a tree that grows in hell whose flowers look like devil?s heads and people/jinns will eat them until their bellies are filled and then given hellish drinks after which they will return back to getting burned and find our parents and most previous generations getting cooked (37:64-71), even prophet?s wives incur hell (66:10), and people will feud amongst them in hell (38:64), and some will be chained in 70 arms length and burnt in hell (69:31-32), special God?s body guards (19 angels) assigned to protect hell (74:31), people will be in chains, shackles and blazing fire (76:4), and wrath of God to abide in hell forever (half the Quran is filled with these gruesome threats). Some of these silly threats and punishments are inconsistent and extremely funny (must be given a gold medal and authented in the guiness books of comics :rotfl:)

It is all because of opposing the prophet/messenger/apostle of an alleged man-made God, MR. Muhammad himself. It is known that Muhammad grew up parentless, became wealthy and reknowned after his marriage to a rich lady Khadija, had a severe mental disorder and began his pursuit of messengership as a schizophrenic narcist who did not even spare his own family members. It is no wonder (as stated in the Quran) he commanded his people to disobey their parents, break ties with all family members, relatives and friends and only marry and procreate among themselves who strictly followed in whatever he said and did. He even abused and condemned just about everyone who did not listen and submit to him and barely spared the ones who did.     

There's absolutely nothing in the Quran that is of any significance today that people never knew or don't know. The Muslims are simply lovin it by playing and twisting just about every word in the book. Some even deny everything that ever existed, including proper names and places and think that current dictionaries is all they need to explain the Quran. The more they do the more messier it becomes. The overall message conveyed by the Quran and in strict concordance and adherent is of total confusion and megalomaniac nature of a tyrant (the god of the Quran ~ Muhammad). Even an evil person can be seen "merciful" when it comes to his own family members, relatives, friends and followers displaying the good side of it. Take the examples of Hitler, Stalin, Saddam and now the Bush and his government. Quran aloners call all sorts of names to sunnies/shias including other Quran aloners whilst forgetting that their own families, relatives and friends are as such, and ofcourse vise versa.

Muslims are the only people on earth sweating hard to enforce their quranic views down other people's throats and among themselves in every which way they can. This is not seen in any other culture. Belief in God is NOT A LAW and Muslims cannot seem to understand this. Muhammad forced this law upon his people and all others he came in contact with and on those whom he had animosity with. People begged him for forgiveness and mercy to spare them their lives but only on conditions to obey him in every respect. If they didn't, then HELL broke loose (see above). In some cases where he could not defeat them or come to any consensus, he cursed them in the name of his idol Supreme God and sent them to Hell. It is said that there were around 700,000 ahadith collected after his death and only around 200,000 or less deemed "authentic" (sahih) while around 1/2 a million termed as "daeef" (weak). Why? Because majority of them depicted Muhammad as an intolerable schizophrenic warmonger and scholars were ashamed to bring the true Muhammad out. Muhammad also warned and insisted anyone from saying a word about him but that never happened and he got badly exposed, either by his own people or their ascendants. He forced and subjugated people to believe ONLY in him, impersonalizing his idol One and Only supreme god and taking his name in vain at every step of the way, just like all Muslims do today.

And those who "moved their tongues" or questioned/disbelieved in Muhammad's authority, he burnt them, massacred them, slaughtered them, ordered his men to find them wherever they are, cut off people's hands and feet on alternate sides, lashed and stoned people to death and forced his followers and others to fight them, all in the mercy of a merciful idol Allah whom he impersonalized. Allah was the most revered, the best of the best idols and Muhammad took undue advantage of this idol. Each time he would bring about a command or justify his sayings, he would immediately mention ?by Allah this and by Allah that? and ?Allah revealed this and Allah revealed that?, in exactly the same manner all Muslims today do with their idol book (Al Quran). Many of his opponents were begging for his mercy and forgiveness but he hardly spared them unless they surrendered in total obedience to him and submission to his idol God by bowings, prostrations, circumambulations and other offerings at Kaba where his god was throned. He also imposed jizya (29:9) on all disbelievers and requited/punished them severely for non-payment. He had more wives and concubines than others and forbade others from marry them while having others no more than 4 but 1 will do. He even exchanged slaves for trade. He forced people to change their direction of idolworshipping prayers from Jerusalem to Mecca just because he lost treaty with the Jews and was unable to defeat them and then cursed them. All of this and much more, exposes Muhammad's tyrant nature and ill intentions in the Quran, to bring about a religion called Islam, the footsteps of which are seen today.

Much of what I've mentioned is in the Quran crystal clear. There's abundance of information about this all over the net. Only Muslim apologists will deny them all and refute them in nonsensical, illogical, pitiful and laughable ways which they themselves cannot comprehend. Their ONLY circular reasoning is because the Quran says so and defies any logical criticism whatsoever. One of the Quran?s alleged yet most authentic divine command that all Muslims themselves disbelieve in, is that God himself forbade his own advocate to explain his words but only to deliver, yet the Muslims (including kids and the ignorant) act as if they are superior than their prophet and hence have special permissions from their man-made god to explain the Quran in its entirety without having any knowledge of it.

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Re: True Nature of Quran
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2007, 04:18:07 PM »
Good attack on traditional islam, though it has a few holes. :)

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Re: True Nature of Quran
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2007, 04:28:44 PM »
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Muslims are the only people on earth sweating hard to enforce their quranic views down other people's throats and among themselves in every which way they can.

Gotta love the irony of this thread and others like it here at FM, eh?
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4:82 Why then do they not study the quran with care?

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Re: True Nature of Quran
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2007, 04:34:23 PM »
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Much of what I've mentioned is in the Quran crystal clear. There's abundance of information about this all over the net.
They twist and manipulate the verses to fit with thier agendas. There is abundance of information refuting this all over the internet.
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Only Muslim apologists will deny them all and refute them in nonsensical, illogical, pitiful and laughable ways which they themselves cannot comprehend.
Says you? So what? Also some honest Christians and Jews defen Islam and Muslims, I have seen it myself.

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Re: True Nature of Quran
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2007, 04:34:48 PM »
Good attack on traditional islam, though it has a few holes. :)
Very true. Thread should renamed to untrue nature of Islam.

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Re: True Nature of Quran
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2007, 04:35:55 PM »
Oh, not just any traditional islam either. This is the most insane form of islam you're getting. What a difficult task, refuting that.


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Re: True Nature of Quran
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2007, 04:40:07 PM »
Oh, not just any traditional islam either. This is the most insane form of islam you're getting. What a difficult task, refuting that.


Do you think it's worth the time it will take? I do not think so. Some people just do not want to get it.

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Re: True Nature of Quran
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2007, 05:34:30 PM »
Do you think it's worth the time it will take? I do not think so. Some people just do not want to get it.

Yes, like you.

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Re: True Nature of Quran
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2007, 05:45:16 PM »
What a difficult task, refuting that.
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If I ever had a chance getting hold of this Quranic ancient "man-made god", I shall gouge and punish HIM with ease myself, for destroying the lives of billions and sealing the minds, eyes and ears of all Muslims.

Edit: I forgot to mention that with my bare hands without a sword, my little "pinky" would do the job.

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Re: True Nature of Quran
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2007, 02:55:07 AM »