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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Hafs or Warsh
« Last post by good logic on Today at 10:15:41 AM »
Peace Imran.
I have  cited the verses for you. I have given you my take on it .
I have asked your take on it?
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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No, Pazuzu's work is very sound. You are stuck with your egyptian bible lore  which may match your own whims and bible hadith, but which do not match AT ALL the qur'an.

But that is your trade I guess, and it is understandable that you pursue it.

Salaam

How one can be blind to ground facts, except when one is blocked by passions and personality worship.
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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Hafs or Warsh
« Last post by imrankhawaja on Today at 08:41:35 AM »

GOD has decided to spell the only two letter N in Qoran as NUN and gave us the explanation why

brilliant so u know what God decided  :yay:
Did God personally told you about this ?

where r tbe explaination of why he decide to write in such a way ? evidence plz
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No, Pazuzu's work is very sound. You are stuck with your egyptian bible lore  which may match your own whims and bible hadith, but which do not match AT ALL the qur'an.

But that is your trade I guess, and it is understandable that you pursue it.

Salaam
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Peace!

No need for me answer these because I do not believe in any of them.

The Qur'an and Reason is the guide for whoever believe Muhammad and seek not to associate partners with God.

If after receiving Qur'an, you choose to associate partners with God, by taking Muhammad as partner with God in enacting religious laws, then you're responsible for your own condition.

Nobody is taking Muhammad as a partner with God. They attribute to Muhammad things and hide behind that name but they are not taking any real Muhammad as partner, because he did not take care of leaving anything for posterity from himself. If he did he would have done itas well as with Qur'an and even Qur'an itself would have warned against him. But Qur'an does not attribute such a thing to him. But others have abused his name. As they abused the names of other prophets before him.



Salaam
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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Hafs or Warsh
« Last post by good logic on Today at 08:18:06 AM »
Peace Imran.
You say, quote:

Add more things
for you ( dnt know the method what need to apply)
for you ( method is not consistent)
for you (method and claims depend on secondary sources)
example if he never find out added verses from hadith he never make a claim 

I say that I am satisfied with what I have checked. And I have given you the link/tools to do the same. If it is an issue for you ,it is not for me.

As for, what you say here, quote:
more examples like spell noon as nwn and double multiple of 19 no answers so far?

 You have missed my answer, here it again:

GOD has decided to spell the only two letter N in Qoran as NUN and gave us the explanation why and the  hints.
One of them in 21:87 وَذَا النّونِ إِذ ذَهَبَ مُغٰضِبًا فَظَنَّ أَن لَن نَقدِرَ عَلَيهِ فَنادىٰ فِى الظُّلُمٰتِ أَن لا إِلٰهَ إِلّا أَنتَ سُبحٰنَكَ إِنّى كُنتُ مِنَ الظّٰلِمينَ
The other one in 68:1 نُونْ وَالقَلَمِ وَما يَسطُرونَ
And the hint is the subject of 21:87 and 68: 48 فَاصبِر لِحُكمِ رَبِّكَ وَلا تَكُن كَصاحِبِ الحوتِ إِذ نادىٰ وَهُوَ مَكظومٌ 
Dha Nun and Sahibi Al Hut . GOD could have easily said Jonah in both but did not Why?
 Because of the logical explanation tokeep with the numerical structure of His book. As it happens both ذَا النّونِ   and  صاحِبِ الحوتِ   have letters that fit it in with the structure  locking the whole book .
Still have an issue?
Then give me your take on why did GOD spell the letter N in 21:87 as NUN? And why in only the two verses GOD is calling Jonah other than his real name?

Because you will come back here saying N in 68:1 is spelt as N  and it is consistent in all the old manuscripts and we will end up going in a circle because you are not providing the history/evidence linking to the original copy.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Hafs or Warsh
« Last post by imrankhawaja on Today at 07:35:24 AM »


For me, Qoran s verses are saying to us GOD has preserved His letters, words chapter and arrangement (Jamaahu) with a mathematical structure. Impossible to change the original tablet/composition of the book.



Add more things
for you ( dnt know the method what need to apply)
for you ( method is not consistent)
for you (method and claims depend on secondary sources)
example if he never find out added verses from hadith he never make a claim  :!

more examples like spell noon as nwn and double multiple of 19 no answers so far?

lot more things but to be honest when u have lot of drawbacks in your theory how can u carry on debating things without solving these apparent issues ?
thats how you ll tell people about math of quran when u guys dnt even know what u did with math?

how you teach somebody when u by yourself dnt know WHAT to teach ?
but before teaching WHAT to teach we always need to know HOW to teach ? make sense
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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Hafs or Warsh
« Last post by good logic on Today at 07:30:15 AM »
Peace  Imran.
Give me a comparison with the copy of the prophet.  Or a copy that existed during the prophet s time.
Then we can see the consistency of the old manuscripts?
This method is the only fool proof one if you discount the mathematical structure.
You say I cannot use a certain mushaf  that is not "consistent" but you use one/ones that you have not provided history/evidence for that is /or comes from the original?
What is this logic then?
GOD bless you.
Peace.
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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Hafs or Warsh
« Last post by imrankhawaja on Today at 07:18:27 AM »
peace gl, your infatuation with nineteen is making you lose sense of basic logic
it's not about original (same word/phrases need to be consistent) see examples.

brother instead of telling math we need to educate brother GL something what he always avoid same happen with this of your post.

SEE the brackets GL use magnifer it will help.

example

book x  1st version God is One
book x 2nd version God is not one.

book y 1st version God is one
book y 2nd version God is one
book y 3 till 1000th version God is one.

@ GL now collect all the older versions and find us a difference ?
not those difference what we already discussed that never change the meanings as full.

now its your take.  i m educating u as well as a brother. usually people who have interest in math have brain. but now i undertand coders are fake mathematicians thats y they are dumb to understand simple logic. and simple posts and simple questions.
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Peace!

No need for me answer these because I do not believe in any of them.

The Qur'an and Reason is the guide for whoever believe Muhammad and seek not to associate partners with God.

If after receiving Qur'an, you choose to associate partners with God, by taking Muhammad as partner with God in enacting religious laws, then you're responsible for your own condition.
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