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General Issues / Questions / Re: A Few Questions for S.O.L. Adherents

« on: May 08, 2012, 01:33:31 AM »

I am grateful for this thread.

I have tried and failed to read stuff SOL has written more than once, as I seem to lack the patience or mental fortitude necessary to parse out what he is actually trying to convey. Having read this thread thus far I feel more secure in my initial decision to dismiss his writings as rambling nonsense.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Freemasons?

« on: May 04, 2012, 06:40:46 AM »

if the "system", ANY system, has no real effect in dealing with this disease of the human heart, what then?

Then we'd all be suckers.

 I feel pretty confident myself that the "system" is indeed the only cure for what ails me, so I'll persevere in striving to live it hoping that some day I might.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Why is it that this forum has failed to project brotherhood and good vibes ?

« on: April 28, 2012, 03:26:35 PM »

Salaam everyone,

I have been a member here for a few years and read regularly what's posted here, and some members have made great contributions whereas others are only busy with bickering about sunni shia and mainstream Muslims but on the whole there is no feeling of a Ummah here.
I do not believe in collecting ahadith to explain to non muslims what is wrong with mainstream Islam. Instead I say my understanding of Islam is only based on the Qur'an and, rather than throwing mud on others, I try to live by it and try to give a good example of what is Islam and I hope I have left some good example for others to follow.
Only the other day we were served by a young man in a shop, and his humbleness and manners and drew us to him though we did not talk more then jazaklallh khair. His gentle vibes made me question why I never feel connected with many on this forum despite all of us agreeing to follow Qur'an only.
I want you to ask one question why is it that this forum has failed to project brotherhood and good vibes and why do I and many others  feel more connected to the likes of the one in the shop who, for all I know, may be following hadith?
Peace

Peace.

I think it's a few things. For one, interacting in the flesh enables much richer, denser communication than text-and-smilies forum posting.
Then there's this forum and its "vibe". I think this site harbors more than a few very opinionated people who don't seem to quite "get it", and who aggressively promote ideas that are unfounded or incorrect in one way or another. This spreads bad vibes.
As I understand it, the actual Ummah is populated by the worthy exclusively, and that kind of worth is determined by God, not by who posts on some internet message board. This doesn't mean this site is useless, it just means that you as a reader need to figure out which posts to consider and which to ignore. After all, there are great treasures of wisdom and truth among all the madness here!

God willing, may you have more Ummah in your life.

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Pork

« on: April 28, 2012, 09:31:29 AM »

Its actully submission; i.e. aligning yourself with the views of our Creator; if God says not to go near that tree, or not to eat pork we, as his servants should be grateful for the rest of the blessings bestowed on us, and not insist on finding out why one thing is singled out as prohibitted.
Salaam

Ultimately, I think this is the correct answer. We can discuss our personal thoughts on why swine's flesh might be forbidden for believers, but we can't actually probe God's intentions behind these verses, so any discussion on the subject will necessarily be speculative. Thus it seems more reasonable to simply surrender to the unknowability of the issue and submit to God's expressed will regardless.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Code 19

« on: April 25, 2012, 01:03:35 PM »

We should desire for the truth, in all sincerity. If some people currently see the Code 19, and some don't, we should with a peaceful and humble mind agree that this is the case.

Yes. We should also in all possible peace and humility acknowledge that the question whether numbers and counts derived from the Quran are part of God's message to mankind or not isn't a trivial one.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Pride, Boasting, and Humility?

« on: April 25, 2012, 12:57:47 PM »

the character trait I'm most proud of is my humility

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: So does reason come into how one views the Koran or not?

« on: April 25, 2012, 12:23:37 PM »

But do you think that reasoning could help in your submitting more to the Koran? Like can things in the Koran be beyond just the plain text, or beyond just the black and white literal meaning?

I'm just saying that you can't intellectually reach a truth you aren't ready for because of arrogance, and trying to do so might lead astray. If you're humble enough, use whatever facilities of reason God has blessed you with!

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Code 19

« on: April 25, 2012, 07:17:35 AM »

The miracles of say, Moses and Jesus were clear and indisputable in the hearts of those who believed yet they were rejected, disputed and called "magic" but those who rejected them.

True, but equally true is that there are lots of religious people who erroneously accept as divine signs or miracles things that really aren't; crop circles, gurus who claim to never eat/drink/sleep, more or less vague apparitions of Jesus or his mother in various places, weeping or bleeding statues, various arbitrary exercises in numerology...

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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: So does reason come into how one views the Koran or not?

« on: April 25, 2012, 03:26:28 AM »

I find that my personal understanding of the Quran relies less on my powers of reasoning than on my ability to humbly submit to God, if that's any help at all.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Freemasons?

« on: April 25, 2012, 02:59:50 AM »

Unrepentant masons...

1. So what or whom did you really mean by 'masons'?
2. What did they do ? Thus they need to repent...
3. How to repent? (Convert to yet another religion or sect???)

1: those who practice the false (and therefore necessarily satanic) religion of freemasonry.
2: they followed something other than God's prescribed Religion as per 3:85
3: by sincerely asking God for forgiveness and by submitting to Him alone.