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Discuss Latest News/Events / Re: Female British Muslim MP pelted with eggs

« on: December 02, 2009, 02:54:21 AM »

This women did not deserve the attention of these disgusting and ingnorant men. How they have a right to tell her she is not a real muslim!!!!!

I visited her web site and she is supports and promotes some fantastic causes to prevent injustice and violence to women and muslims around the world.

I only hope that the actions of a few cowards do not impact her .......how brave for her to stand and debate after being pelted by eggs...what cowars these men were...she gets a thumbs up from me.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: modesty in quran

« on: December 01, 2009, 05:03:35 PM »

Its so true, the university I attend is full of girls who wear a head scarf but really really revealing outfits aswell which is confusing to me and they are constantly flirting with guys and fighting with each other over guys and gossip and yet ill hear them make nast comments on others who show hair!!!!

We also have a few girls who dress in black jilbab and scarf and cover their face. Being aquainted with a number of them im shocked at how they treat/speak about others. (not all the girls behave like this im just making a point about those who are)

On the other hand I think you should have the choice and do know wonderful people inside and out, who wear hijab and dont judge those who dont....

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Hi all .....about time I introduced myself :)

« on: December 01, 2009, 03:36:55 PM »

Hi Hope4 thanks to you and everyone else for your welcome.

I have just finished reading the article you suggested...very interesting . Its such a shame that without realising it a huge proportion of "new muslims" head in the wrong direction thinking that they are doing the right thing. Im thinking back now to my first visit to the mosque and all the free literature I was given that contained mostly hadith and such but I was so desperate for knowledge and to find others like me I was blind to questioning it.

I was explaining to my mother the other day that many of her assumptions about the muslim faith are wrong after she jokingly said to me how can you be a muslim when you dont wear a headscarf and do this and that I asked her if she had read the Quran and she was a bit taken aback but she understood what I ment. Since then I took the time to read fully the front/welcome page of this web site which out lines some misconceptions held by non muslims and muslims alike and have decided  :!that ill print it off a few times and hand it to my mum and my sisters and anyone who would like to know more, as its a brilliant introduction.

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Introduce Yourself / Hi all .....about time I introduced myself :)

« on: December 01, 2009, 06:21:00 AM »

Hello everyone, I have been a member for a while but have never introduced myself but enjoy reading all your posts. Ill try to explain as best I can how I came to god alone excuse me if its not clear or its longwinded.....

I converted to Islam in February and thats where my story starts. Prior to converting (like most I assume) I began reading the Quran and various articles, sites on Islam. What I read made sense and being confused about my birth religion (roman catholic) in regards to who wrote the bible and various other issues I went with my instincts and visited the local mosque. Im happily married (5 years) with two wonderful children and one on the way. My husband was happy for me to explore anything that made me happy and had no issues with my growing interest in Islam.

Cutting a long story short, I met some likeminded (or so I thought) people who encouraged me that the time was right to take my shahadda. On the day I was to take it I was excited I was taken aside by the women who would take me through it and another witness.....just as I was about to begin the woman said "I hear your married" i replied that I was and she said well before I begin im just letting you know your marriage will not be valid after shahadda ....she quickly continued with my shahadda and i went through it a bit numb and shocked I felt too embarressed to question what she ment but too stuborn to say "well ill not take my shahadda then" ...I was then led to a women who looked soooo miserable that she looked on the verge of tears...I was introduced to her and told this is so and so...she has the same issues as you and made the brave decision to leave her husband and children for her faith any advice you need just ask her  ......WHAT ARRGGHHH...my exciting day had been ruined (to soft a word) and I was now completley dumfounded

I sought advice with a muslim lady I knew as I was so upset that this peaceful loving and logical system would insist I break my family up because id found the truth. .I was advised (all be it very discretley) to read the Quran without hadith (or the view of the women in charge of the sunday mosque meeting) for myself. I did but still found contradictions everywhere. I decided to ask god for his advice and in the mean time went on a basic residential Arabic course at a local institute. Whilst there one of the organisers heard my concerns and provided me with a copy of a fatwa which explained i didnt need to leave my non muslim husband and children...more confusion 

so phew (sorry for waffeling) I went back to the mosque feeling that I may have been misinformed and would give the women the benifit of doubt. Two or three visits later i realisied that i was continually witnessing a total lack of regard for Quran. All lessons, talks , advice and religious views were based on hadith....when i questioned this I was repremanded ...there is soooo much more I could tell you about how i was treated (all because I went away and researched myself or tried to help ladies who were being given frightening advice as regards divorce , custody and domestic violence all based on hadith).

I decided that I would rather be alone and follow Quran and try to gain knowledge enough to dispute issues with authority rather than my gut feelings, than be part of a group following hadith and see injustice done. Im a trainee Barrister and it is second nature to me to use the primary source for informationand try to evidence things and not to advise without knowledge....but I was made to feel i was wrong for doing this. i also really disliked teh constant reference to how much reward i would get for this and that and how i would be overlooked or not heard by god if i missed just one ritualistic instruction (like not washing hands so many times or pronouncing my arabic incorrectly)....i got the impression that it was all about reward and standing out as a muslim via my choice of clothes than it was about love, good deeds, peace happiness and pleasing god thorugh helping others.

Waffle over.......so here I am im still very much a learner and always will be......my stab at Arabic wasnt great and im still trying to learn ...but i love to learn so its a joy. The more of Quran I read the more I know I have made the right decision and my family continues to be happy healthy and my husband continues to enjoy hearing about what ive learned and becoming more open to teachings or healthy debate on subjects arising in the Quran....

I am happy to have found the group and thank you all for the interesting and thought provoking posts you write they have are both helpful and encuraging ....I hope one day I will be able to contribute at the same level of understanding.