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General Issues / Questions / Does Islam encourage World Domination?
« on: December 23, 2003, 10:11:22 AM »
I made some research and even asked some friends but forgive me folks I cant expound on this subject much better than this...
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Quote from: "DoctorNO"
Where in the Qur'an does Islam encourage World Domination?


World Domination is part of the Daru 'l-Harb doctrine of Islam. This Doctrine comes out of verses in the quran that says the world belongs to Allah. There are also hadeths that say it. Most muslims take this as meaning all the world must be converted to Islam

[22:64-65] To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. Absolutely, Allah is the Most Rich, Most Praiseworthy. Do you not see that Allah has committed in your service everything on earth?

[31:26]To Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. He is the Rich, the Praised.

[57:10] And what cause have ye why ye should not spend in the cause of Allah?- For to Allah belongs the heritage of the heavens and the earth

[22:58-59] Those who emigrate for the sake of Allah, then get killed, or die, Allah will surely shower them with good provisions. Allah is certainly the best Provider. Most assuredly, He will admit them an admittance that will please them. allah is Omniscient, Clement.

[22:78] You shall strive for the cause of Allah as you should strive for His cause. He has chosen you and has placed no hardship on you in practicing your religion


Daru 'l-Harb is the doctrine (found in the hadith as well as in the Qur'an) that the earth belongs to Allah and to his Messenger. In the Qur'an Allah promises the world to his followers. This leads to the idea that jihad is a defensive war - liberating what already belongs to Allah and to his Umma. Hence the Muslims by waging jihad are taking back what is theirs. Even the whole world.

Since the world belongs to the Allah, any power that prevents them from having it is by definition oppressive, and upsurping the Umma's rights.

In the early hadiths, Umar says to his generals: When you will take the land that God gives you, back... . This means that jihad - even ?offensive? jihad is ALWAYS a defensive war of liberation. This is one of the theological factors that makes discussion of jihad so confusing.

This concept of the world belonging to Allah and his Messenger then became formalized into the doctrine of Daru 'l-Harb.

Definition of DARU 'L-HARB
DARU 'L-HARB.  "The land of warfare." According to the Dictionary Ghiyasu 'l-Lughat Daru 'l-harb is "a country belonging to the infidels which has not been subdued by Islam." According to the Qamus, it is "a country in which peace has not been proclaimed between Muslims and unbelievers.

In the Fatawa Alamgiri, vol. ii. p. 854, it is written that a Daru 'l-harb becomes a Daru 'l-Islam on one condition, namely the promulgation of the edicts of Islam. The Imam Muhammad, in his book called the Ziyadah, says a Daru 'l-Islam again becomes a Daru 'l-harb, according to Abu Hanifah, on three conditions, namely (1) That the edicts of the unbelievers be promulgated, and the edicts of Islam be suppressed; (2) That country in question be adjoining a Daru 'l-harb and no other Muslim country lie between them (that is, when the duty of Jihad or religious war becomes incumbent upon them, and they have not the power to carry it on). (3) That no protection (aman) remains for either a Muslim or a zimmi; viz. that amanu 'l-awwal, or that first protection which was given them when the country was first conquered by Islam. The Imams Yusuf and Muhammad both say that when the edicts of unbelievers are promulgated in a country, it is sufficient to constitute it a Daru 'l-harb.


Definition DARU 'L-ISLAM
DARU 'L-ISLAM  "Land of Islam." According to the Raddu 'l Mukhtar, vol. iii. p. 391, it is a country in which the edicts of Islam are fully promulgated.

In a state brought under Muslims, all those who do not embrace the faith are placed under certain disabilities. They can worship God according to their own customs provided they are not idolaters; but it must be done without any ostentation and whilst churches and synagogues may be repaired, no new place of worship can be erected. "The construction of churches and synagogues in Muslim territory is unlawful, this being forbidden in the Traditions; but if the places of worship belonging to Jews, or Christians, be destroyed, or fall into decay, they are at liberty to repair them because buildings cannot endure forever."

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8488

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General Issues / Questions / Are Human Beings Perfect?
« on: December 23, 2003, 09:55:07 AM »
If Homo Sapiens are perfect beings then...

* Why do we make mistakes?
* Why do we grow old?
* Why do we have desires?
* Why do we have needs?

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General Issues / Questions / Are Human Beings Perfect?
« on: December 23, 2003, 09:52:34 AM »
Quote from: "Damon"

GOD is Perfect. He makes absolutely no mistakes. His creation is...perfect???

If His creation is so perfect, then how do we explain njn6d4's dilemma? How do we explain mental retardation? How do we explain siamese twins? How do we explain people born with a limb missing or dwarfism? How do we explain people born with both sex organs and don't which one they are meant to be if GOD's creation is perfect?

Human beings are perfect? Or are human beings perfect for something? These two ideas are different. What did the quran tell you?

I tell you that homo sapiens make perfect piranha food but they are nowhere near the perfection of being.

Quote from: "Damon"

We tend to forget just how perfectly GOD has designed and created us and the entire universe. When I was a kid, whenever I would see someone that society considers "Abnormal" I would always do two things:

I cannot fathom how you could agree to that conclusion. If our design was perfect then how could it be that some of our organs have no use, like the appendix? How is it that we can make it ?more? perfect by circumcizing men? How is it that some people are better than others? How is it that we make mistakes? Grow old?

Quote from: "Damon"

I apologize to everyone here for what I'm about to say, as I said before this is just my personal theory.

I wonder if GOD allows these things to happen to serve as a reminder to us just how Perfect He really is. In other words, if there were no Divine design behind our creation, would the majority of mankind be born as perfectly as we are? Two arms, two legs, a beating heart, mental faculties, a nose through which we breath. Even minute things such as fingernails, eyelashes and passing waste, urine or gas serve a purpose to our well being.

However wont that also remind you the CRUELTY of your hypothetical God?

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I would always express an inner gratitude for my own state, but I would also ask GOD "Why not me?" Why do that to someone who is innocent and hasn't done anything to anybody? So on the one hand I would be grateful, but on the other hand I wanted to know "Why?"?

Your really want to know why? Doesnt the quran give you a hint? Christians have an answer to that question.


Quote from: "Damon"

GOD knows best and may He guide me and correct me if my thinking process is wrong.

The quran found the space to praise mohammed and command muslims to bless this dead man. And yet failed to give an answer to your very important question and thus leaving you walking in the dark and conjuring your own theories. This is very wrong.

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General Issues / Questions / My "Brother" Anna
« on: December 23, 2003, 08:41:35 AM »
Hey lets talk about creation perfection in a dedicated thread. Damon, i'll comment on your posts there. :)

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General Issues / Questions / My "Brother" Anna
« on: December 23, 2003, 07:53:17 AM »
I knew many gays that were very good human beings. And it saddens me how both people and religion agree to persecute them. At least christians as a whole are more tolerant and understanding.  :cry:

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General Issues / Questions / Re: My "Brother" Anna
« on: December 23, 2003, 07:49:40 AM »
Quote from: "njn6d4"

Here is the problem. My brother suffers from gender identity disorder - he's a transsexual. For those who aren't familiar with GID, Anna believes he is mentally and emotionally female and he has doctors aplenty who will confirm that to be so. There are male brains and female brains and Anna's brain is wired up like a female.


What is the answer for my brother and people like him? Were they just destined for the fire from birth? How do we interpret Allah's silence on an issue (i.e. the Qur'an says nothing about it)?

TIA


Friend, please dont be offended but you are living an eye-opening experience that the ignorant Quran was not dictated or written by a god. Mohammad had no idea that some (if not all) gays were born with that mentality and sexual preference. This is a very important issue that no good god should have missed. Had your brother lived in the 7th century mohammed would surely have condemned him for a pervert.

Im sorry but that is the truth.  May the other people here learn to accept this fact.  :cry:

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Discuss Latest News/Events / Saddam Hussein captured
« on: December 23, 2003, 07:31:21 AM »
But why single out America for something every nation had been doing since time immemorial?

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Christianity/Judaism/Others / chapter 5 verse 116
« on: December 23, 2003, 06:32:12 AM »
Quote from: "TheNabi"

Why can't the idea of God becoming a human be a logical impossibility?

because the idea of Godhood and humanity is too complex for simple logic.

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1. If God is love then its to personally serve humans on a human to human basis?


Why? Is not God the provider for mankind?

Tell me honestly who you think is more loving between these two models:

1. A father who provides all the material needs of his children but had no time to even touch them or talk to them on a person to person level.

2. A father who provides all the material needs of his children and found the  time to play, talk, serve, sympathize, pat, touch, and laugh with his children?

continued...

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Really? They give free copies of the quran from mosques? No kidding?

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:lol: its about time somebody noticed :lol:

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