« on: April 14, 2012, 05:49:13 PM »
And their saying is referring to the Jewish tradition and not the Christian tradition. The crucifixion is established by explicit verses in the Gospel which the Koran confirmed. Its the Trinity which is not based on any explicit verses of the Bible which the Koran attacked.
The crucificion is established by explicit verses in the New Testament (NT) of the Christian Bible. My friend, the NT you read today is NOT the Gospel (i.e. Isa's Injeel) that the Qur'an talks about. I think this is the root of your problem which prompted you to ask the question in the first place, how come Jesus' teachings aren't mentioned in the Qur'an. You're looking for fabricated "Jesus' teachings" in the Qur'an as found in the NT and not the REAL Jesus' teachings which may or may not be there since we don't have a copy of the REAL Gospel to compare...
Additionally, although i agree with you that it may be refuting the Jewish tradition, however, at the same time, it's refuting the Christian teachings as well. The Qur'an NEVER confirms the NT idea of Jesus' crucifiction, as you say (please provide me a verse where it does). On the contrary! "Their saying" is referring to EXACTLY that which follows, "We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, messenger of God! And they had not killed him, nor crucified him, but it appeared to them as if they had. And those who dispute are in doubt regarding him, they have no knowledge except to follow conjecture; they did not kill him for a certainty."
It is irrelevant whose doctrine this "saying" falls into, be it Jewish or Christian, the point being if the doctrine says Jesus was crucified this verse right here refutes it point blank.
You're reading the Bible and the Talmud like you're reading the Qur'an. It's like reading a semi-fiction and a non-fiction book about one person then asking how come the the non-fiction isn't mentionining that the person had red hair whereas the whole point of the semi-fiction book is that he had red hair. Do you kind of see my point here?