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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 26, 2015, 06:27:40 PM »
a lunar cycle is a year.

No.
A lunar cycle is the moon's rotating around the earth once.
A year is 12 such rotations of the moon.
However, it is a false year as it is arbitrary just like a 13-moon year.
http://www.lawoftime.org/thirteenmoon.html


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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 24, 2015, 07:51:22 AM »
The tropical year :



That ain't my question, but yours !

Regardless, i don't know of any primary source that provides us with Mhmd's alleged date of birth! And, mind you, the lunar "Hijri" calendar is a joke.

SLM

I agree with you hundred percent.
But there seems to be a misunderstanding concerning YOUR question.
I didn't mean YOU in person, I meant any person in their right mind. 

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 24, 2015, 07:40:31 AM »
The tropical year !

Definitely.
The year that repeats is the tropical year, which is also called the solar year.
The solar year repeats because it has a sense of time.

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The series of full moons (iddat ash-shohoor in 9:36) are
the full moons between two consecutive summer solstices.

The first four of them are the forbiden full moons,
whose names can be Ramadan, Dhul Hijjah, Rajab and Dhul Qidah.

26 Jun- 625-26 Jul-24 Aug-23 Sep-23 Oct-21 Nov-21 Dec-20 Jan 626-18 Feb-19 Mar-18 Apr-17 May-15 Jun
15 July 626-13 Aug-12 Sep-12 Oct-10 Nov-10 Dec-09 Jan 627-08 Feb-08 Mar-06 Apr-06 May-04 Jun
03 July 627-02 Aug-31 Aug-30 Sep-29 Oct-28 Nov-28 Dec-27 Jan 628-25 Feb-27 Mar-25 Apr-25 May
23 Jun 628-22 Jul-21 Aug-19 Sep-19 Oct-17 Nov-17 Dec-16 Jan 629-15 Feb-16 Mar-15 Apr-14 May-13 Jun
12 July 629-10 Aug-09 Sep-08 Oct-07 Nov-06 Dec-05 Jan 630-04 Feb-05 Mar-04 Apr-04 May-02 Jun
02 July 630-29 Aug-28 Sep-27 Oct-26 Nov-25 Dec-24 Jan 631-22 Feb-23 Mar-22 Apr-22 May-20 Jun

The 15 June full  moon in 626
and the 13 June full moon 629 are EXTRA full moons in their own series.
If they are postponed to the next series in order to concoct a 12-moon thing to be called the lunar year, it is not a year at all.
It is nothing of the sort.
It has no sense of time, no forbidden moons, no "no hunting" times, no seasons
as follows: 

26 Jun 625-26 Jul-24 Aug-23 Sep-23 Oct-21 Nov-21 Dec-20 Jan 626-18 Feb-19 Mar-18 Apr-17 May
15 Jun-15 July 626-13 Aug-12 Sep-12 Oct-10 Nov-10 Dec-09 Jan 627-08 Feb-08 Mar-06 Apr-06 May
04 Jun-03 July 627-02 Aug-31 Aug-30 Sep-29 Oct-28 Nov-28 Dec-27 Jan 628-25 Feb-27 Mar-25 Apr
25 May-23 Jun 628-22 Jul-21 Aug-19 Sep-19 Oct-17 Nov-17 Dec-16 Jan 629-15 Feb-16 Mar-15 Apr
14 May-13 Jun-12 July 629-10 Aug-09 Sep-08 Oct-07 Nov-06 Dec-05 Jan 630-04 Feb-05 Mar-04 Apr
04 May-02 Jun-02 July 630-29 Aug-28 Sep-27 Oct-26 Nov-25 Dec-24 Jan 631-22 Feb-23 Mar-22 Apr
22 May-20 Jun

Would the Prophet Muhammad allow it in the 620's, when he was alive?

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:31:56 AM »
Thanks to G-D's marvellous design, losing track of time - as it repeats yearly - is pretty much impossible. The exception being if one chooses to be of the three mystic apes, of course.

What repeats yearly? The year?

The lunar year does not repeat yearly = each year.  It comes 11 days earlier than the previous year, which means it is a different year each year. That is why it has no sense of time. For example the lunar year has no answer to your question "What season was the Prophet  born?"



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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 23, 2015, 12:08:24 AM »
The solar calendar make no sense , because if you lose track of it, you will have to wait until the next solstice to correct your error.

That is "...if you lose track of the solar year...

Unfortunately what is said here is not true.
God's truth is that the lunar calendar makes no sense,
because it has NO TRACK you can keep of.

Take the prophet's birthday.
It is said that he was born on 12 Rabī al-Awwal 53 BH which was April 23, a spring day.
Peophet Muhammad was born in spring.

But this lunar year Rabī al-Awwal is in winter.
Does that make sense?
Was he born in only spring or all four seasons?

Can a human being be born in all four seasons?
Were YOU born in all four seasons?

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 20, 2015, 11:44:42 PM »
Shohoor (full moons) have been created by God whereas calendar months are man's business. Man may decide to divide the year into, say, 28 mansions, so it may have no months at all let alone 12. Pls refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_mansion

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 20, 2015, 09:36:54 PM »
Thank you for the relevant input @Taro-san.

Personally, I don't see the Qurān edifying a lunar calendar of 13 months a year, but a luni-solar calendar (17:12) of 12 months (9:36). I believe Layth concludes the same in the FM article you linked.

I have to disagree. 9:36 does not mention calendar months but shohoor in the sky.

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 19, 2015, 10:59:34 AM »
The first full moon appearing right after the summer solstice is actually the scorching full moon.

Please note that each year it arrives 11 days earlier than the previous one,
but the chain is broken when an extra full moon appers in the iddat as-shohoor .   

03 July of 2012 is 11 days earlier than 15 July of 2011,
23 June of 2013................................... 03 July of 2012,
12 July of 2014 is 19 days later than 23 June. of 2013

The reason is that there is an extra full moon in the iddat between summer solstices of 2013 and 2014:

-------1--------------2--------3---------4--------5--------6---------7-----------8----------9---------10-------11------12-----Extra
23 June 2013-22 July-21 Aug-19Sept-19 Oct-17 Nov-17 Dec-16 Jan 2014-15 Feb-16 March-15 Apr-14 May-13 June
12 July 2014-...

This makes the full moons appear in their own times fixed in the solar year. For example the scorching full moon always appears at the start of summer; it never takes place in any other season as it does in the so-called lunar year, whcih proves that the lunar calendar is against God's order. Actually there is no year such as the lunar year; you cannot make any year out of the moons in the sky.   
   

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 19, 2015, 09:56:42 AM »
I'm not sure if the Quran supports a luni-solar calendar. In verse 10:5, the Quran suggests that there is a lunar calendar. Because the Quran suggests that the creator has made the moon a light, and measured its phases so that we would know the number of the years and the calculation. If the Quran supported the notion a luni-solar calendar, then verse 10:5 would suggest that the creator is the one who has made the sun an illuminator, and the moon a light, and measured their phases so that we would know the number of the years and the calculation. But verse 10:5 only refers to the moon regarding the number of the years and the calculation. Verse 10:5 doesn't refer to both the sun and the moon regarding the number of the years and the calculation. Therefore, it seems that the Quran supports a Lunar calendar, not a luni-solar calendar.

I understand from the related ayas that the Quran supports the calendar which is based on the solar year. 10:05 you mention is proof enough, which says the phases of the moon help us know the number of years. 

Full moon is one of the phases of the moon.  If we count the first full moons appearing right after the summer solstice, we get the number of the solar years.

Supposing somethig important happened some years ago in your life, but you don't remember what year it exactly was. However, you have noted the 5 first full moons right after the summer solstice until now. God's order is that the number of the first full moons is the same as the number of the solar years that have passed since the event.

http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2015&country=74

02 July. 2015
12 July. 2014
23 June 2013
03 July. 2012
15 July. 2011

It happened in 2011.

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Hot/"ramadan" Answer
« on: May 30, 2015, 06:39:32 PM »
Muslims who take islamic lunar year serious
loook up the sky to see the so-called ramadan crescent.

However, date of the ramadan crescent
in the sky is not the same as in the islamic lunar year.

Date of ramadan crescent
2015: 17 June (http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2015&country=74)
..630:  17 June (http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=630&country=74)

Convert 17 June 630 to islamic lunar year.
Result is 29 Safar 9 AH.
Not 1 Ramadan 9 AH.

Which date is the valid one?

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