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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: Yesterday at 09:19:19 PM »
Dates of the first full moon (shahru ramadan) after the summer solstice:

2011... 2012…. 2013….. 2014…. 2015…. 2016…
15 July  03 July  23 June 12 July  02 July  20 July

Why does 6 come 19 days LATER than 5?
Because 5 has 13 full moons:

01…02 July 2015
02…31 July
03…29 Aug 
04…28 Sep
05…27 Oct
06…26 Nov
07…25 Dec
08…24 Jan 2016
09…22 Feb
10…23 March
11…22 Apr
12…22 May
13…20 June

Please YOU check to see
why 4 comes
19 days LATER than 3.

This may help you see
why EVERY shahru ramadan of the so-called lunar year comes 11 days earlier
and what is wrong with that .

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: Yesterday at 05:45:51 PM »
Peace wrkmmn.

brook: Sets of shohoor are not solar years.
wrkmmn: Of course not, they are year, which has to be lunar.

No, they are sets.
They are not year.

They are not solar year,
they are not lunisolar year,
they are not lunar year.

They are not ANY year.

They are each a set (AAiddat),
AAiddat alshshuhoor (عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ)

If you take AAIDDAT here to mean number,
it is 13 in some years like in 2015 (http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2015&country=74),
and 12 in some others like in 2016 (http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2016&country=74).

This is God's truth, which you can prove for yourself
by simply counting the full moons in 2015 and 2016.

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: February 06, 2016, 09:47:13 PM »
Sets of shohoor are not solar years
but they are in sinch with them and thus help you know the number of years (10:5):

He is the One who made the sun to emit light, and the moon to reflect it, and He measured its phases so that you would know the number of the years and the count...

Take year 2001 as the starting point
and save one gold coin by dropping one in your money box each time you see the ful moon, say, after the summer solstice.
The number of passing years is the number of gold coins you save.

http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2001&country=74

1, July 05
2, June 25
3, July 13
4, July 02
5, June 22
...

Please note
that
2 is 11 days earlier than the former,
...
4 is 11 days earlier,
5 is 11 days earlier

but
3 is 19 days LATER than 2
because 2 has 13 shahr:

01: June 25, 2002
02: July 24
03: Aug 23
04: Sept 21
05: Oct 21
06: Nov 20
07: Dec 19
08: Jan 18, 2003
09: Feb 17
10: March 18
11: Apr 16
12: May 16
13: June 14

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: February 06, 2016, 08:53:04 PM »
IDDAT
= duration
= number
= series

IDDAT ASH-SHOHOOR
= duration of shohoor
= number of shohoor
= series of shohoor

The duration of shohoor is one solar year because it is the moon’s rotating (with the earth) around the sun  which causes the shohoor.
So the moon’s 12 or 13 rotations take the same time as the earth’s one rotation takes around the sun, 365 days. 

The number of shohoor is 12,
which is the minimum because 11 shohoor can not fill in the solar year.
However, there ise a 13th shahr, which God has decided  to appear just as he has decided the sun to come from the east (2:258),
So the 13th shahr is God’s truth, it cannot be denied.

The 13th shahr prevents the shohoor from coming 11 days earlier every (solar) year
and thus fixes them each at a particular time of the solar year and causes them to have the sense of time
such as the seasons.

The series of shohoor is a complete set,
which is made up of 12 or 13 shahr,
like a necklace of 12 or 13 gold pieces.

God forbids you from breaking up the set of shohoor
by postponig the 13th shahr over to the next set of shohoor,
which is called NASY (نَّسِيءُ) in 9:37.

The length of the series of shohoor changes
as it lasts
354 days when it has 12 shahr,
383.5 days when it has 13 shahr.

So
iddat ash-shohoor (series of shohoor)
with its changing length,
is not a year.

Length of a year never changes.

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: February 06, 2016, 06:55:41 PM »
Peace:

I see that many people is just to deep in love with their sun-god to listen.

12 lunar months/full moons/shahars, or wathever you want to call them, are a year.

In 9:36
God is saying "The (iddat) number of shohoor is twelve shahrs"
God is not saying "One year is twelve shahrs."

If he said "One year is twelve shahrs"
he would be unable  to answer this question:

According to that year system you mention, what season was Muhammad born?

Neither would he be able to anwser
this question:

What particular part of the year system is the hunting restriction mentioned in the Quran as follows?

O you who believe, God will test you with some of the game for hunting coming within reach of your hands and your spears... (5:94)
O you who believe, do not kill any game while you are restricted... (5:95)

Remember that God is able to do anything he wants
but still he is unable to answer these questions.

The decrepancy is caused by the lie that in 9:36 God is saying "Twelve shahrs are a year."

No. Twelve shahrs are NOT a year but a series of shohoor, in other words, they are the wholeness of the series.
If you decrease the number to, say, eleven, the wholenes disappears, the concept of time, seasons disappears.   

If you do that, your your sin of rejecting God's order doubles (at-Taubah 37): إِنَّمَا النَّسِيءُ زِيَادَةٌ فِي الْكُفْرِ 
which is the very sin the people have committed in making up the pure lunar year.

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: February 05, 2016, 07:34:42 PM »
Shahr in 9:36
is not a lunar cycle
but a full moon.

The proof is that the number of full moons in one solar year is sometimes 13 like in 2015
Please ref to http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2015&country=74

If shahr in 9:36 stood for a lunar cycle (which lasts 29.5 days)
13 times 29.5 days would make 384.5 days and that would never fit in the 365-day solar year because 384.5 days are 19 days too many,
but 13 full moons does fit in it because those 19 days are placed in the previous and follwing years.

In 2015
the first full moon is on Jan 5, so 10 days of the first half of the cycle are placed in 2014
the last full moon is on Dec 25, so 9 days of the second half of the cycle are in 2016: 

10 days are in 2014 ......................................... 9 days in 2016
o o o o o  o  o o o o o o o o o ......... o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o

10 + 09 = 19
384 - 19 = 365

The correct translation of
إِنَّ عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ عِندَ اللَّهِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا
can be like this:

Indeed, the number of the full moons with Allah is twelve full moons.

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 26, 2015, 06:27:40 PM »
a lunar cycle is a year.

No.
A lunar cycle is the moon's rotating around the earth once.
A year is 12 such rotations of the moon.
However, it is a false year as it is arbitrary just like a 13-moon year.
http://www.lawoftime.org/thirteenmoon.html


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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 24, 2015, 07:51:22 AM »
The tropical year :



That ain't my question, but yours !

Regardless, i don't know of any primary source that provides us with Mhmd's alleged date of birth! And, mind you, the lunar "Hijri" calendar is a joke.

SLM

I agree with you hundred percent.
But there seems to be a misunderstanding concerning YOUR question.
I didn't mean YOU in person, I meant any person in their right mind. 

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 24, 2015, 07:40:31 AM »
The tropical year !

Definitely.
The year that repeats is the tropical year, which is also called the solar year.
The solar year repeats because it has a sense of time.

*

The series of full moons (iddat ash-shohoor in 9:36) are
the full moons between two consecutive summer solstices.

The first four of them are the forbiden full moons,
whose names can be Ramadan, Dhul Hijjah, Rajab and Dhul Qidah.

26 Jun- 625-26 Jul-24 Aug-23 Sep-23 Oct-21 Nov-21 Dec-20 Jan 626-18 Feb-19 Mar-18 Apr-17 May-15 Jun
15 July 626-13 Aug-12 Sep-12 Oct-10 Nov-10 Dec-09 Jan 627-08 Feb-08 Mar-06 Apr-06 May-04 Jun
03 July 627-02 Aug-31 Aug-30 Sep-29 Oct-28 Nov-28 Dec-27 Jan 628-25 Feb-27 Mar-25 Apr-25 May
23 Jun 628-22 Jul-21 Aug-19 Sep-19 Oct-17 Nov-17 Dec-16 Jan 629-15 Feb-16 Mar-15 Apr-14 May-13 Jun
12 July 629-10 Aug-09 Sep-08 Oct-07 Nov-06 Dec-05 Jan 630-04 Feb-05 Mar-04 Apr-04 May-02 Jun
02 July 630-29 Aug-28 Sep-27 Oct-26 Nov-25 Dec-24 Jan 631-22 Feb-23 Mar-22 Apr-22 May-20 Jun

The 15 June full  moon in 626
and the 13 June full moon 629 are EXTRA full moons in their own series.
If they are postponed to the next series in order to concoct a 12-moon thing to be called the lunar year, it is not a year at all.
It is nothing of the sort.
It has no sense of time, no forbidden moons, no "no hunting" times, no seasons
as follows: 

26 Jun 625-26 Jul-24 Aug-23 Sep-23 Oct-21 Nov-21 Dec-20 Jan 626-18 Feb-19 Mar-18 Apr-17 May
15 Jun-15 July 626-13 Aug-12 Sep-12 Oct-10 Nov-10 Dec-09 Jan 627-08 Feb-08 Mar-06 Apr-06 May
04 Jun-03 July 627-02 Aug-31 Aug-30 Sep-29 Oct-28 Nov-28 Dec-27 Jan 628-25 Feb-27 Mar-25 Apr
25 May-23 Jun 628-22 Jul-21 Aug-19 Sep-19 Oct-17 Nov-17 Dec-16 Jan 629-15 Feb-16 Mar-15 Apr
14 May-13 Jun-12 July 629-10 Aug-09 Sep-08 Oct-07 Nov-06 Dec-05 Jan 630-04 Feb-05 Mar-04 Apr
04 May-02 Jun-02 July 630-29 Aug-28 Sep-27 Oct-26 Nov-25 Dec-24 Jan 631-22 Feb-23 Mar-22 Apr
22 May-20 Jun

Would the Prophet Muhammad allow it in the 620's, when he was alive?

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Calendar Reform
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:31:56 AM »
Thanks to G-D's marvellous design, losing track of time - as it repeats yearly - is pretty much impossible. The exception being if one chooses to be of the three mystic apes, of course.

What repeats yearly? The year?

The lunar year does not repeat yearly = each year.  It comes 11 days earlier than the previous year, which means it is a different year each year. That is why it has no sense of time. For example the lunar year has no answer to your question "What season was the Prophet  born?"



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