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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Gods "Arsh" - Throne
« on: Today at 03:21:34 AM »
Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

8:32 Say: "Who has made forbidden the nice things that GOD has brought forth for His servants and the good provisions?" Say: "They are meant for those who believe during this worldly life, and they will be exclusive for them on the Day of Resurrection." It is such that We explain the revelations for those who know.

ALLAH knows best.



Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

Being homosexual is not a license to ignore what is clear. The Qur'an is clear that it is neither okay to be promiscuous, nor to have extramarital sex (outside of narrow circumstances, not important here), nor to approach others out of lust.

The Qur'an is also clear that it is unlawful to forbid what is not forbidden, to be bad to others, to be unjust, and a host of other things.

For any "gray areas" we have our own understanding and our own consequences. There is a time and place for violence, a time for lies, and a time for many things, ISA.

53:32 They avoid major sins and immorality, except for minor offences. Your Lord is with vast forgiveness. He has been fully aware of you since He initiated you from the earth, and while you were embryos in the wombs of your mothers. Therefore, do not ascribe purity to yourselves; He is fully aware of the righteous.

I'm reminded of Musa/Moses (peace upon all prophets)...

28:15   And he entered the city unexpectedly, without being noticed by the people. He found in it two men who were fighting, one was from his clan, and the other was from that of his enemy. So the one who was from his clan called on him for help against his enemy, whereby Moses punched him, killing him. He said: "This is from the work of the devil; he is an enemy that clearly misleads."

28:16 He said: "My Lord, I have wronged my soul, so forgive me." He then forgave him, for He is the Forgiver, the Merciful.

If any person follows what is clear and strives towards goodness, it should follow that they are to be welcomed in the deen the same as anybody else. We should endeavor to invite others to the deen, and to better ourselves. If you want ALLAH to love you more, try not to love anyone less than another.

I don't want anyone to look at any of my posts and follow what I write. I want people to look at the evidences and make their own decisions. I want people to be aware of the harm that they do to themselves and others when they act without thinking, or think narrowly. Pushing another person down hardly pulls oneself up. Creation is vast, life is short, and we will all be Judged. If these words have helped anyone anytime, ISA, they are not wasted.

ALLAH knows best.



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Perhaps this may be of help.

The triliteral root shīn hā dāl (ش ه د) occurs 160 times in the Quran, in nine derived forms:
44 times as the form I verb shahida (شَهِدَ)
seven times as the form IV verb ashhada (أَشْهَدَ)
twice as the form X verb is'tashhidu (ٱسْتَشْهِدُ)
three times as the noun shahādāt (شَهَٰدَٰت)
23 times as the noun shahādat (شَهَٰدَة)
56 times as the nominal shahīd (شَهِيد)
once as the noun mashhad (مَّشْهَد)
21 times as the active participle shāhid (شَاهِد)
three times as the passive participle mashhūd (مَشْهُود)$hd#(28:44:13)

ALLAH knows best.



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My comments in red.

AIDS part was just an example..  indicating medically having a relation with same sex is dangerous...

Promiscuity is dangerous, especially when (pardon the pun) coupled with unprotected sex. Regardless of sexuality, anal sex also carries additional risks.

When cases of AIDS started to emerge in the USA the majority of cases were among men who have sex with men (homosexuals), haemophiliacs and heroin users. Adding Haitians to this list made the 'Four-H Club' of groups at high risk of AIDS

Yes, this is also true. Homosexuals were more at risk due to increased rates of transmission due to anal sex and promiscuity, hemophiliacs were exposed to HIV in blood transfusions before adequate protective measures were implemented, heroin users swapped contaminated needles and were more likely to engage in promiscuous behavior, and Haitians were disproportionately exposed to HIV from unhygienic blood transfusion equipment.

smoking is also injurious to health but people still use it... but quran did not forbid smoking isnt it?

That's true; smoking is dangerous and not forbidden. It doesn't mean that smoking is a good idea. However, a person has a choice before deciding to smoke and having to wrestle with addiction, a homosexual does not choose to be homosexual.

one more link

The widely accepted theory is that HIV/AIDS originated in a monkey or chimpanzee virus that "jumped species" in Africa. However, it is clear that the first AIDS cases were recorded in gay men in Manhattan in 1979

Although the link is sketchy, the information is factual.

I don't disagree with any of the points made above; they are true. They still neither show that homosexuality nor homosexual acts are Qur'anically prohibited. That isn't the same as an endorsement. The Qur'an is silent on the matter. There is absolutely no reason to hate on homosexuals nor to turn them away from the deen.

ALLAH knows best.



Introduce Yourself / Re: Quick Introduction
« on: Yesterday at 10:54:52 PM »
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@VicKus:  :welcome:

Remember that AQ (Al Qur'an) contains hadith. It is only extra-Qur'anic hadith to be guarded against, for purposes of the deen.

39:23 GOD has sent down the best narrative [l-ḥadīthi], a Book that is similar, dual. The skins of those who are concerned towards their Lord shiver from it, then their skins and their hearts soften up to the remembrance of GOD. Such is the guidance of GOD; He guides with it whoever He wills. And for whoever GOD misguides, then none can guide him.

Examples of Qur'anic hadith include 20:9, 51:24, and 79:15 among other ayat.

May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers.



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Ah, the Old Testament! Al Qur'an states that it (AQ) is enough for a believer...

Here are some scientific falsehoods in Leviticus:

11:5 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud , but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

Coneys and hares don't chew cud.

11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls ; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
11:14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
11:15 Every raven after his kind;
11:16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,   
11:17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
11:18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
11:19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.      

Bats aren't birds.

Know what else is an "abomination" according to Leviticus?

Shellfish, such as shrimp or oysters. I'd have to say that shellfish are exactly as much as abomination as homosexual acts!

I'd have to type all day to point out the problems just in the Book of Leviticus. Feel free to read up on it.

The Qur'anic ayat have already been addressed in other threads, I'll provide links if need be.

Have a blessed day, all.



General Issues / Questions / Re: Homosexuality LGBTQI and the deen
« on: Yesterday at 10:00:13 PM »
Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

My comments in red.

if you want to learn about the current azab of homsexuality then you will amazed to find out the curse of AIDS first  generated in gays...

I would indeed be amazed...if it were true! AIDS isn't a curse, but a disease caused by HIV. It didn't generate in homosexuals, the source has been found to be chimpanzees; harvesting bush meat likely caused the initial infection. Promiscuity, contaminated blood transfusions, and shared hypodermic needles among IV drug users tend to be primary causes of spreading HIV. One of the reasons why homosexuals are sometimes promiscuous is that society tends to reject them and makes it harder for them to have a monogamous relationship.

It is true that gay men are more likely to be HIV positive than straight men, in fact this is true of several diseases. It is also true that vast numbers of  HIV positive people are heterosexual. While we're on the subject of truth, let me share another truth: a scientific study found that homosexual men had FEWER INFECTIONS of nongonococcal urethritis (NGU) (14.63% vs. 36.40%, p < 0.001), herpes genitalis (0.93% vs. 3.65%, p < 0.001), pediculosis pubis (4.30% vs. 5.35%, p < 0.005), scabies (0.42% vs. 0.76%, p < 0.02), and genital warts (1.68% vs. 6.69%, p < 0.001) than heterosexual men.

and interestingly the cure is not discovered yet due to the fact that scientist are unable to find the antivirus that kill the virus of aids... is it not a clear hint from God...

Modern medicine has found ways to fight the virus to a standstill, and may in time ISA cure the disease. Unless the creation of a cure, ISA, is likewise a "hint" from the Almighty, this argument doesn't seem to have much merit.

but make sure dnt try justify wishful thinking under the cover of religion you cannot prove it for sure..

Wishful thinking would be proclaiming something prohibited that is not. If it isn't prohibited, it is allowed.

may God guide you to the right path..

although its not my concern to ask a personal question but i feel you are enggage in this curse if i am not wrong..

A curse? Where did this "curse" come from?  :)

The veracity of my statements, most of which are direct quotes from the Qur'an or facts derived from observing creation, are unchanged by my real or perceived sexuality.

ALLAH knows best.



General Issues / Questions / Re: Homosexuality LGBTQI and the deen
« on: Yesterday at 07:05:32 PM »
Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

Look up the definition of homosexual. Homosexuality has to do with inclination. Anyone who grasps this indisputable fact will understand that nobody can be condemned for an unacted upon inclination, even if homosexual acts can be proven to be against the deen. Nobody has been able to satisfactorily prove that homosexual acts ~are~ against the deen, and cling to bias and tradition--what they found their ancestors doing. There are so many ayahs downcrying following ancestors that I won't bother to post them.

It is indeed true that just because mosquitoes engage in homosexual acts that mosquitoes are not a reason to justify homosexual acts among humans. However, we are commanded to observe and consider creation, and homosexuality is part of creation--and very very widespread (not just mosquitoes, but ALL known sexually reproducing species).

2:26 GOD does not shy away from putting forth the example of a mosquito, or anything above it. As for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their Lord. As for the rejecters, they say: "What does GOD intend with this example?" He strays many by it, and He guides many by it; but He only strays by it the wicked.

3:190 In the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the difference between the night and the day, are signs for those who possess intelligence.
3:191 Those who remember GOD while standing, and sitting, and on their sides, and they ponder over the creation of the heavens and the earth: "Our Lord you have not created this without purpose, glory to You, spare us the retribution of the Fire!"

I wonder at the people who attack creation because it is not in their personal likes. Homosexual acts are prevalent throughout creation--do you second guess the Almighty? Think before you call an aspect of creation perverse or disgusting.

If this thread is too frank for a person's taste, nobody is forced to read it and it is not needlessly explicit. The topic is clear. The discussion is sometimes less so, with name calling and facile posts in the lines of "its icky so it isn't allowed" or "its this way because I say so." Bring your evidences. This is supposed to be free-minds, not small-minds. For those that honestly engage in discussion, this was not intended towards ya'll; otherwise, if the shoe fits, wear it!

49:11 O you who believe, let not any people ridicule other people, for they may be better than they. Nor shall any women ridicule other women, for they may be better than they. Nor shall you mock one another, or call each other names; miserable indeed is the name of wickedness after attaining faith. And anyone who does not repent, then these are the transgressors.

7:80-81 describes an ACTION and not just an inclination. Does anyone deny that it describes a LUSTFUL action?

For those who engage in personal attacks and bad manners with deliberation, know that it is totally against the deen, regardless of your motives.

If you had been created homosexual, how would you contend with the bias, hatred, and persecution? How would you wish to be treated? ALLAH has created homosexual humans, and they are largely being treated unjustly, even among those who should know better.

For those who persist in being bad to other humans, enjoy this life. ISA, you will come to know--in one world or the next.

ALLAH knows best.



Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Sin of Nooh's a.s. wife
« on: Yesterday at 12:26:55 PM »
Greetings and Peace, all  :group:

2:134 That is a nation that has passed away; to them is what they have earned, and to you is what you have earned; and you will not be asked regarding what they did.

I think we're done here!  :)

ALLAH knows best.



General Issues / Questions / Re: Homosexuality LGBTQI and the deen
« on: Yesterday at 09:14:14 AM »
Greetings and Peace, all  :group:


I have skimmed through these posts and find it ridiculous that people would think to promote "fahsha" while serving God alone!

You cannot have sex outside wedlock (consentiual or not) and wedlock can only be between a man a woman.

Pleas people: stop spreading Satanic behavior falsely under the guise of Islam...

7:28 And if they commit immorality, they say: "We found our fathers doing such, and God ordered us to it." Say: "God does not order immorality! Do you say about God what you do not know?"

How, exactly, does quoting the Qur'an in context promote immorality? :hmm Please be specific about "spreading Satanic behavior." PM if you like.

2:141   That is a nation that has passed away; to them is what they have earned, and to you is what you have earned; and you will not be asked regarding what they did.

3:7 He is the One who sent down to you the Book, from which there are legislative verses-they are the Mother of the Book-and others which are comparable. As for those who have a disease in their hearts, they follow that of it which is comparable, seeking to confuse, and seeking to derive an interpretation. But none know its interpretation except GOD, and those who are well founded in knowledge; they say: "We believe in it, all is from our Lord." And none will remember except those who possess intelligence.

39:18 The ones who listen to what is being said, and then follow the best of it. These are the ones whom GOD has guided, and these are the ones who possess intelligence.

It isn't possible to "catch homosexuality" and it isn't something that spreads. While you no doubt have reasons for feeling the way that you do, why not post your reasoning and evidences? ISA truth will prevail. When discussed in a serious manner, human relations are a reasonable topic.

ALLAH knows best.



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