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May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers.
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I want to know a bad word that you consider as bad in my post; if you could point out I will be able to answer and later we will see if this ayat suits as a referential ayat to the content of my post.
I understand this to mean a bad word or a bad idea; after all, words convey ideas. To not value human life because you consider it to be that of a disbeliever or destined to be a disbeliever is a terrible idea.
No one knows who these are at the outset. But by one's associations to Allah on matters in his life, it is possible to understand to an extent, his disbelieving act in those particular matters concerned. The christians beget and breed christians; the hindus beget and breed hindus; the so called muslims beget and breed the so called muslims and so on. This is in general.
It *is* a generalization/stereotype, and like most generalizations/stereotypes it is not 100% true. How many monotheists, even on these forums once followed a different path? Based on your comments, none of these people would ever have had a chance!
When you speak from Quran, there is nothing to dispute. When you speak of Quran, there is reason to have different takes; but then we cannot engage in arguments over Quran for only Allah knows the real sense that the ayat carries depending upon the situation and the individuals involved in such circumstances. If individuals' taking is wrong, then sufficient for them is Allah Who might Forgive them. It is because they opined individually and followed not collective opinions as herds.
Now in your above citation 6:164 "Every soul earns what is for it". Each one earns what he gains through the reflection from the admonition of the verses; and also earns that with which he takes sides opting from the general opinions of the people at large. None will carry the burden of another. It is true; no disputes whatsoever. "Every soul earns what is for it". "Then to your Lord is your return and He will inform you of what you disputed in." Here we are not disputing I believe. I only said my take; you may take it or leave it. But here, there seems on your part starting a dispute over my point, which shall not be pleasing to God. Your quote of the ayat is uncalled for here as a response to my post.
I do indeed dispute the idea that children "earn" the sins/burdens of their forebears--and posted Qur'anic evidence to support my position. Your position is not unassailable. Are you so proud of your position that you think that not taking it for granted as true is "not pleasing to God?" If you feel any ayat is "uncalled for"...then I'm ~really~ sorry about that!
Living truthfully, in purity, with piety and humility is certain way of God. Falling in line with this is human life, human rights; and Allah is pleased with them. This apart, I do not know what human life and human rights you are speaking about. May I be clarified? "Self proclaimed disbelievers" - they are self believers or people with self confidence who believe only in their own ability and shall not believe in the Power of God. And their today's wealth and their large number of people make them say so with Pride. Allah is not pleased with the proud. Siding with Allah, I prefer 1 life over the 2. And no disputes with you by saying this.
Your position is clear. How you are "siding with Allah" is less clear. ALLAH has made it clear that Judgment is for the Almighty alone. Are you doing the Almighty favors? Does the Creator have any needs?
There is no enmity between the people when one believes in befriending Allah and His Malayika.
Is it a subject matter here when I have not disputed it?
It is subject matter because it is an open forum and relates to the topic.
Now kindly give me your take on 71: 27 and 18: 80.
My take on 71:27 is that it pertains to the great flood. 18:80 is explaining the actions of a servant of ALLAH who slayed a youth. These are particular examples for particular incidents. The general instruction found throughout AQ is that all life is valued, that people should be just, kind, patient, should invite others to the Deen, and also be humble.
2:94 Say: "If the abode of the Hereafter has been set exclusively for you with GOD, to the exception of all other people, then you should wish for death if you are truthful!"
5:8 O you who believe, stand for GOD and be witnesses for justice, and let not the hatred towards a people make you avoid being just. Be just, for it is closer to righteousness, and be aware of GOD. GOD is expert over what you do.
6:151 Say: "Come let me recite what your Lord has made unlawful for you: that you should not set up anything with Him; and do good to your parents; and do not kill your children for fear of poverty, We provide for you and for them; and do not come near lewdness, what is evident of it and what is subtle; and do not take the life which GOD has made forbidden, except in justice. That is what He enjoined you that you may comprehend."
17:33 And do not take a life, for GOD has made this forbidden, except in the course of justice. And whoever is killed innocently, then We have given his heir authority, so let him not transgress in the taking of a life, for He will be given victory.
23:52 "And this is your nation, one nation, and I am your Lord so be aware."
23:53 But the affair was disputed between them into segments. Every group happy with what it had.
23:54 So leave them in their error until a time.
25:68 And those who do not call on any other god with GOD; nor do they take the life which GOD has made forbidden, except in justice; nor do they commit adultery. And whoever does will receive the punishment.
49:11 O you who believe, let not any people ridicule other people, for they may be better than they. Nor shall any women ridicule other women, for they may be better than they. Nor shall you mock one another, or call each other names; miserable indeed is the name of wickedness after attaining faith. And anyone who does not repent, then these are the transgressors.
88:25 Indeed, to Us is their return.
88:26 Then to Us is their judgment.
May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers.